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"bombastic ass" is not the antidote to "boorish ass" (why Olbermann Cannot Do Cleanup for Matthews)
Hardball, Countdown, Malkin blog | 8.20.04 | Mia T

Posted on 08/20/2004 5:47:06 AM PDT by Mia T

"bombastic ass" is not the antidote to "boorish ass"

(or why Keith Olbermann Cannot Do Cleanup for Chris Matthews)

 

by Mia T, 8.20.04

KEITH

 

perating under the false assumption, (a curious, 20th-century cable conceit), that "bombastic ass" is the antidote to "boorish ass," MSNBC schedulers have Keith Olbermann doing cleanup for Chris Matthews.

Last night, Michelle Malkin easily dispensed with that silly notion. (See below.)

 

SOME POINTS TO PONDER, SWIFTLY

  • Is Matthews a witless waterboy D who doesn't understand that 'self-inflicted' doesn't imply 'intentional'... or is he a colluding waterboy D who does? (A distinction without a difference, I suspect....)

  • Why don't Matthews and Olbermann have the intellectual curiosity, if not the professional ethics, to subject John Kerry to the same relentless inquisition to which they so casually subject his swift boat accusers?

  • Why don't the Washington Post et al. expend as much effort digging up both John Kerry's military/medical records and the contemporaneous after-action reports/records of all the swift boat officers and commanders who did missions with Kerry as the effort they have expended digging up swiftee Larry Thurlow's (and George W. Bush's) military (and medical) records and on attempting to discredit the swiftees, generally?

  • Corollary: Are Matthews and Olbermann and the Washington Post et al. ignoring supportive documentation, e.g., the contemporaneous after-action reports/records of all the other swift boat officers and commanders that support the charges against Kerry made by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?

  • Because the focus of Thurlow's Bronze Star citation was not his boat but Kerry's, and because Kerry's boat was not the focus of the underlying event, why wouldn't the obvious explanation be that it was Kerry's self-serving after-action report that was the source of the citation data? (That would explain the "contradiction" about whether or not there was hostile fire.)

  • Why isn't it obvious to Matthews and Olbermann and the Washington Post et al. that Jim Rassmann, traumatized by the mine blast and, by his own account, mainly submerged underwater, was not the best eyewitness to the events surrounding Kerry's Bronze Star incident?

  • Corollary: As Jim Rassmann was the only person who recommended Kerry for a medal for this incident (other than Kerry, himself: his own self-serving after action report constituted an implicit self-recommendation), perhaps Kerry did not deserve the award, after all.

  • Why didn't Olberman notice that the logic of the Washington Post story yesterday that purportedly impeaches Larry Thurlow's account of the circumstances surrounding Kerry's Bronze Star was circular, at best?

  • Why do Matthews and Olbermann and the Washington Post et al. start with the assumption that John Kerry is telling the truth and his accusers are lying? Just the opposite has already been demonstrated to be the case about multiple charges.

    It has, thus far, been demonstrated that Kerry lied about Cambodia, lied about throwing out his medals, lied about fleeing after the mine blast (the Bronze star event), "was over the top" (Kerry's own words) about
    the war crimes accusation.

    Whatever happened to the following inescapable rule of thumb: falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus?

  • Why do Matthews et al. refuse to acknowledge the plain fact that the Swift Vets for Truth is a politically diverse group whose only common thread is the conclusion that John Kerry is dangerously unfit to be commander in chief?

#9-JOHN KERRY: DEADLY OPPORTUNIST
SELF-CONFESSED WAR CRIMlNAL MORPHS INTO SELF-PROMOTER WAR HERO


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#8: Hear Kerry's Commanders + Crewmates
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Did John Kerry pick a running mate or hire a lawyer
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AMBUSH JOURNALISM...OR MY EVENING WITH CAVEMAN CHRIS MATTHEWS

By Michelle Malkin   ·  
August 20, 2004 02:34 AM

Here's a peek behind the cable TV curtain. It's not pretty.

So, my publicist arranges for me to go on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews on Thursday night to talk about my recent columns on the FBI and national security profiling and my new book. Despite the show's basement ratings, we figure it's a good opportunity to reach out to a new audience. FOX News, with whom I have a contract, has generously allowed me to appear on some competing networks to talk about the book. Thursday was the second to the last day that I could make such appearances.

A few hours before the show, a producer calls to tell me I will be on for two segments--the first topic will be the Swift Boat Veterans, the second topic will be related to the book. Fine. This is the news business. I understand the need to go with the flow and cover the hot issues of the day. I am prepared to discuss both topics.

In a pre-interview, the producer goes over general questions about Kerry's response to the Swift Boat vets, whether the charges will be an issue in the presidential debates, and the basic themes of my book and its implications for the current War on Terror. I am originally scheduled to be on with the Washington Post's Dana Milbank. This was scratched and I am informed at the last minute that the other guest will be former San Francisco mayor Willie Brown.

As I am seated at the table with Matthews, who I am meeting for the first time, he cracks a joke--and not in a well-meaning way--about how I look. (There are quite a few people who are hung up on this.) "Are you sure you are old enough to be on the show? What are you? 28?" I grit my teeth. He badgers me again with the same question. I politely answer his question and supply my age.

(I wonder how Matthews' wife, the respected TV journalist Kathleen Matthews, who hosts a show about working women, would react if informed about her husband's treatment of a fellow female journalist. I've been in the business a dozen years and would be happy to talk to Mrs. Matthews about my firsthand experience with Neanderthal chauvinism in the workplace.)

Needless to say, things went downhill, fast and loud, from there.

1) Matthews introduces me, says we'll get to the subject of my book "in a minute," and launches into a spiel about how Bush should order the Swift Boat Vets to stop running their ads. Matthews intentionally mischaracterizes me as "speaking on behalf of the Bush campaign," when he knew full well I was there (with special permission from FOX News) to talk about my book, which he had sitting right next to him on the table and which he had chatted with me briefly about before the start of the segment. I correct him. He does not acknowledge his error.

2) When I tried to make a point about how the mainstream media ought to subject John Kerry to as much skull-pounding interrogation as private citizens such as Swift Boat Vet Larry Thurlow had endured from Matthews and the Washington Post, Matthews cut me off and snorted that he had never been thought of as "mainstream." Yeah, keep snorting.

3) In response to Matthews' claim that the Swift Boat Vets campaign was orchestrated by the White House, I noted that the Boston Globe--hardly a hothouse of GOP operatives--had raised many of the same questions about Kerry's war record as the Swift Boat Vets had. No response from Matthews.

4) Willie Brown expresses exasperation over Swift Boat Vets' questions about Kerry's wounds. He says: "There are questions about the shrapnel wounds. So what else is there? How much he got shot? How deep? How much shrapnel does he have?

Note that I didn't bring the subject of shrapnel. (Got that, Keith Olbermann?) Willie Brown raised the issue.

Here is how I responded verbatim:

"Well yeah. Why don't people ask him more specific questions about the shrapnel in his leg? There are legitimate questions about whether or not it was a self-inflicted wound."

Matthews frantically stuffed words down my mouth when I raised these allegations made in Unfit for Command that Kerry's wounds might have been self-inflicted. In his ill-informed and ideologically warped mind, this transmogrified into me accusing Kerry of "shooting himself on purpose" to get an award.

I repeated that the allegations involved whether the injuries were "self inflicted wounds." I DID NOT SAY HE SHOT HIMSELF ON PURPOSE and Chris Matthews knows it.

Only someone who had not read Unfit for Command would interpret what I was saying the way Matthews did. The book raises questions by vets, many of whom were with Kerry, about whether there was or wasn't enemy fire during the Dec. 1968 incident that led to his first Purple Heart (Patrick Runyon is quoted in a Boston Globe account on p. 35 saying "I can't say for sure that we got return fire or how [Kerry] got nicked. I couldn't say one way or the other. I know he did get nicked, a scrape on the arm.") and whether the injury came from a self-inflicted wound after he caught a tiny piece of shrapnel when he fired a grenade from his M-79 grenade launcher too close (p. 36); whether or not there was "intense rocket and rifle fire" during the Feb. 1969 incident that led to his second Purple Heart (Rocky Hildreth, officer of an accompanying boat on Dam Doi Canal that day, says there was no "intense rocket and rifle fire" on p. 78); and whether the shrapnel wound in his buttocks, which Kerry says he sustained in March 1969 and led to the awarding of his third Purple Heart, was the result of a mine explosion while on a mission or from a wound from his own grenade that he set off too close to a stock of rice he was trying to destroy (p. 87). See also pages 30-31. I was trying to get to these points, but Matthews would not let me finish a sentence.

Well, guess what? This foaming jerk Matthews, who called me irresponsible and kicked me off the show admitted that a) he himself had not read the damned book, b) he was not interested in asking Kerry about the specific doubts raised by vets about his wounds, and c) he had not and would not question Kerry about these specific allegations.

"Are you saying he shot himself on purpose?" Matthews hammered. I repeated myself again clearly that I was referring to the allegations about self-inflicted wounds in the book. When I tried to explain that the vets who were with Kerry had cast a lot of doubt on whether enemy fire occurred during the first two incidents, Matthews cut me off again. "Why did you say that?" he badgered. Because, I said, I was talking about what was in the book, which he had admitted he hadn't read.

"Don't you wonder?" I asked.

"No, I don't," he bellowed. "It's never occurred to me."

With that, I was kicked off the second segment.

As the show broke for commercials, Matthews scrambled for his producers to see if what he said was true. And I'm irresponsible? One staffer ran to the office where I had left my copy of the book, and handed it to Matthews, who--for the first time, apparently--started flipping through it. I asked for my book back and politely said thank you. After I left, he trashed me again on the air and his scurrilous charges were repeated by his MSNBC colleague Keith Olbermann, who called me an "idiot."

I am used to playing hardball. I expect it. I am used to ad hominem attacks. I get more in a day than most of these wussies have received in their lifetimes. But what happened last night was pure slimeball and the unfair, unbalanced, and unhinged purveyors of journalism, or whatever it is they call what they do at MSNBC, should be ashamed.

What I take away from all this is that the Democrat Party waterboys in the media are in full desperation mode. I have now witnessed firsthand and up close (Matthews' spittle nearly hit me in the face) how the pressure from alternative media sources--the blogosphere, conservative Internet forums, talk radio, Regnery Publishing, FOX News, etc. --is driving these people absolutely batty.

Keep bringing it on.

***

By the way, the full MSNBC Hardball transcript is here. Matthews and Olbermann's blog bloviations are here. Olbermann expresses incredulity that I was simply reporting what the Swift Boat Vets' book says, rather than spouting off in a half-baked manner:

Ms. Malkin wouldnít even go so far as to attribute the suspicion to herself. It was in the book.

Olbermann, alleged journalist, is smearing me because I agreed to discuss and analyze claims made by the authors of Unfit for Command and actually referred to what was in the book--rather than cluelessly spew uninformed opinions about the book a la Chris Matthews (of whom Olbermann drools, "never prouder of you, Chris.") Parroting Matthews' conspiratorial line, Olbermann ignorantly suggests that I am following orders from the Swift Boat Vets to "steer the Kerry-Shot-Himself flotsam into the mainstream media." I suggest he talk to the producer, Dominic Bellone, who booked me about the circumstances of my appearance on the show and ask whether I was dispatched by the Bush campaign or Swift Boat Vets operatives or anyone else associated with the vets' book.

The feedback e-mail for Hardball is hardball@msnbc.com.

Chris Matthews' phone number is listed in the Spring 2004 News Media Yellow Book as 202-885-4600.

***

Just wanted to end with what I think was the most significant exchange on the show involving Wille Brown, who made a stunning admission from a fellow Democrat about John Kerry's core deficiencies:

 

BROWN: John Kerry is the kind of a guy who is always laid back. He is always been dealing with people who were gentle, who were in every way respectful, who have a sense of dignity about themselves and a sense of honor. John Kerry may not be fit for the terrible battles and wars of the world of politics.

He may be absolutely perfect as a president. But in term of a candidate, he probably has a series of imperfection thatës may be fatal in his successful, in his pursuit of a successful candidacy. Thatës not to take anything away from his integrity. He should have been doing exactly what heës doing today. He should have been doing that from day one.

MATTHEWS: Do you think Massachusetts politics is softball?

BROWN: I think Massachusetts politics is always been very respectful of the other personës view and very committed to the idea they donët want to seem negative and they donët want to be criticized for an absence of integrity.

MALKIN: He is a boy in the bubble, Chris. And...

MATTHEWS: What does that mean?

MALKIN: He hasnët been subjected to this kind of heat. And as Willie Brown is suggesting, if he canët stand the heat from his fellow veterans, do we really want to trust him to stand up to Islamic extremists?

 

 


UNFIT #19:
JOHN KERRY'S "MORE SENSITIVE WAR ON TERROR"

THE COMPLEAT JOHN KERRY
WHY JOHN KERRY IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA

Kerry, NOT Bush, paralyzed by 9/11 attacks
Hear Kerry admit he could not think

THE DEMOCRATS ARE GONNA GET US KILLED (kerry, clinton + sandy berger's pants) SERlES 3
UNFIT #10: 9/10 mindset


THE DEMOCRATS ARE GONNA GET US KILLED (kerry, clinton + sandy berger's pants) SERlES 2
KERRY-DEMOCRAT CONTEMPT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY[annotated]


THE DEMOCRATS-ARE-GONNA-GET-US-KILLED (kerry, clinton + sandy berger's pants) SERlES1

dox in sox on lummox in box on fox

THE REAL "REAL DEAL"
(what Kerry's commanders and crewmates REALLY think of him--with transcripts)

Did John Kerry pick a running mate or hire a lawyer when he selected John Edwards?

THE MAN FROM HOPE: been there, done that

"Hope is on the way!" (the scoop)

THE TERRORISTS' USEFUL IDIOTS
all the usual suspects


A Vote for Kerry is a Vote for the Terrorists

ELECTION BOTTOM LINE:
TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER or TERRORIST ANNIHILATOR

JOHN KERRY IS UNFIT SERIES: 8/10/04 UPDATE!
taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief


JOHN KERRY IS UNFIT SERIES:
taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief


UNFIT #9-JOHN KERRY: DEADLY OPPORTUNIST
SELF-CONFESSED WAR CRIMlNAL MORPHS INTO SELF-PROMOTER WAR HERO


UNFIT #6: The Deadly Kerry-Hollywood Axis
HOW CAN YOU PUT YOUR CHILDREN'S LIVES IN ITS HANDS?


UNFIT: taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
#1-making the tough choices in a post-9/11 world
UNFIT: taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
#2-understanding the job description

UNFIT: taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
#3-sang-froid and the "nuclear" button

UNFIT: taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
#4 - Kerry champions tolerance for terrorists


sanitizing evil
Kerry Cabal Censors Nick Berg Decapitation


"Loose Cannon" Kerry's AWOL/PURPLE-HEART FRAUD

pro-islamofascist-terrorist radical chic

USEFUL IDIOTS

MOORE IS LESS--THE MOVIE

The Cycle of Violence:
NOW WITH HYPERLINKED INSTRUCTION MANUAL


JOHN KERRY'S RECKLESS TET-OFFENSIVE-GAMBIT REPLAY:
the left's jihad against America is killing our troops, aiding + abetting the terrorists and imperiling all Americans


bill clinton, boy "genius," unwittingly bares all on BBC

deconstructing clinton… "just because I could"

vetting missus clinton...

The Parallel Universe of Jamie Gorelick

nepotism + tokenism = a nancy pelosi
(or a hillary clinton)

Kerry's Belated Condemnation Focuses on Process
Kerry Lacks Moral Authority to Condemn Content

"CRY BUSH" + Iraqi-Prisoner "Abuse"
What are the Dems up to?


DON'T BELIEVE YOUR LYING EARS (The Perjurer Returns)
(Clinton: Claims I Turned Down Bin Laden are 'Bull')

The Mary Jo White Memo:
Documentation of clintons' and Gorelick's willful, seditious malfeasance


What is the REAL Reason for Gorelick's Wall?

giant sucking sound
KERRY MAKES DUKAKIS LOOK CONSERVATIVE, SMART + JUDICIOUS


Q ERTY6 utter failureBUMP

Lib Author Regrets Voting (TWICE!) for clinton
"Sickened" by clinton's Failure to Protect America from Terrorism

MUST-READ BOOK FOR DEMOCRATS:
How clintons' Failures Unleashed Global Terror

(Who in his right mind would ever want the clintons back in the Oval Office?)

The Man Who Warned America
(Why a Rapist is Not a Fit President)

UDAY: "The end is near… this time I think the… Americans are serious, Bush is not like Clinton."

 

 

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1 posted on 08/20/2004 5:47:07 AM PDT by Mia T
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To: WorkingClassFilth; jla; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Wolverine; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; ...

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2 posted on 08/20/2004 5:51:59 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Keith Olberman SUX...MUD


3 posted on 08/20/2004 5:56:59 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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Wow, Chrissy is becoming more unstable and outrageous every day! Good article, Mia!


4 posted on 08/20/2004 5:58:39 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe

thx;)


5 posted on 08/20/2004 6:01:09 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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bttt


6 posted on 08/20/2004 6:01:10 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: Mia T

bttt


7 posted on 08/20/2004 6:02:13 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: Mia T
by Mia T, 8.20.04

BRILLIANT!!! Thanks !!!!

SOME POINTS TO PONDER, SWIFTLY Is Matthews a witless waterboy D who doesn't understand that 'self-inflicted' doesn't imply 'intentional'... or is he a colluding waterboy D who does? (A distinction without a difference, I suspect....)

Why don't Matthews and Olbermann have the intellectual curiosity, if not the professional ethics, to subject John Kerry to the same relentless inquisition to which they so casually subject his swift boat accusers?

Why don't the Washington Post et al. expend as much effort digging up both John Kerry's military/medical records and the contemporaneous after-action reports/records of all the swift boat officers and commanders who did missions with Kerry as the effort they have expended digging up swiftee Larry Thurlow's (and George W. Bush's) military (and medical) records and on attempting to discredit the swiftees, generally?

Corollary: Are Matthews and Olbermann and the Washington Post et al. ignoring supportive documentation, e.g., the contemporaneous after-action reports/records of all the other swift boat officers and commanders that support the charges against Kerry made by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?

Because the focus of Thurlow's Bronze Star citation was not his boat but Kerry's, and because Kerry's boat was not the focus of the underlying event, why wouldn't the obvious explanation be that it was Kerry's self-serving after-action report that was the source of the citation data? (That would explain the "contradiction" about whether or not there was hostile fire.)

Why isn't it obvious to Matthews and Olbermann and the Washington Post et al. that Jim Rassmann, traumatized by the mine blast and, by his own account, mainly submerged underwater, was not the best eyewitness to the events surrounding Kerry's Bronze Star incident?

Corollary: As Jim Rassmann was the only person who recommended Kerry for a medal for this incident (other than Kerry, himself: his own self-serving after action report constituted an implicit self-recommendation), perhaps Kerry did not deserve the award, after all.

Why didn't Olberman notice that the logic of the Washington Post story yesterday that purportedly impeaches Larry Thurlow's account of the circumstances surrounding Kerry's Bronze Star was circular, at best?

Why do Matthews and Olbermann and the Washington Post et al. start with the assumption that John Kerry is telling the truth and his accusers are lying? Just the opposite has already been demonstrated to be the case about multiple charges.

It has, thus far, been demonstrated that Kerry lied about Cambodia, lied about throwing out his medals, lied about fleeing after the mine blast (the Bronze star event), "was over the top" (Kerry's own words) about the war crimes accusation.

Whatever happened to the following inescapable rule of thumb: falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus?

Why do Matthews et al. refuse to acknowledge the plain fact that the Swift Vets for Truth is a politically diverse group whose only common thread is the conclusion that John Kerry is dangerously unfit to be commander in chief?

8 posted on 08/20/2004 6:03:32 AM PDT by YaYa123 ( @Don't Mess With Michelle.com)
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Isn't Chrissy acting Rabid

Maybe Michelle should check for rabies after the close encounter with the spittle!

9 posted on 08/20/2004 6:03:42 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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Matthews was absolutely the worst AH last night. His rapid fire stupid questing are to support his agenda and not to get answers to help clarify issues.

I surfed by his program last night, stopping for a few moments, and he was disgusting.

10 posted on 08/20/2004 6:05:38 AM PDT by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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In reading about Michelle Malkin's experience with Chris, it becomes evident Chris was way over his head in dealing with her.

I've met her, and seen her in debate. She is gorgeous in person, while being very articulate and poised.


11 posted on 08/20/2004 6:09:07 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: YaYa123
"Why don't the Washington Post et al. expend as much effort digging up both John Kerry's military/medical records and the contemporaneous after-action reports/records of all the swift boat officers and commanders who did missions with Kerry as the effort they have expended digging up swiftee Larry Thurlow's (and George W. Bush's) military (and medical) records and on attempting to discredit the swiftees, generally?"

My wife asked the same question after witnessing the lying Chris Matthews make a complete idiot out of himself with Thurlow and Malkin. My answer: Because they don't want to. What would they do if they found out the Swifties for the Truth are actually telling the truth?

12 posted on 08/20/2004 6:11:06 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: YaYa123

thank you :)


13 posted on 08/20/2004 6:22:41 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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bttt


14 posted on 08/20/2004 6:25:29 AM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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15 posted on 08/20/2004 6:26:47 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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16 posted on 08/20/2004 6:27:12 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
This information should be enough to convince people about the opportunistic nature of Kerry. He once accused others & himself of committing war crimes but is now running on a supossed war record.
17 posted on 08/20/2004 6:28:36 AM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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Matthews a witless waterboy D who doesn't understand that 'self-inflicted' doesn't imply 'intentional'...

Either do they vast majority of people

When they hear Self Inflicted they think of intentional

They should have used a different term like
Accidental Self caused friendly fire

The main emphaisis is that IT WAS NOT THE RESULT OF ENEMY FIRE
18 posted on 08/20/2004 6:31:34 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

BUMP


19 posted on 08/20/2004 6:33:00 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
What I take away from all this is that the Democrat Party waterboys in the media are in full desperation mode. I have now witnessed firsthand and up close (Matthews' spittle nearly hit me in the face) how the pressure from alternative media sources--the blogosphere, conservative Internet forums, talk radio, Regnery Publishing, FOX News, etc. --is driving these people absolutely batty.

Thanks Michele Malkin and thank you Mia!
20 posted on 08/20/2004 6:34:04 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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