Posted on 08/20/2004 4:48:54 AM PDT by SJackson
With Kerry it is one more thing that isn't right! By itself the "error" on the DD214 may be no biggie, but with Kerry where everyday he changes his story it is a big deal.
(My opinion of course)
My husband served in the Korean Conflict nothing obviously to do with Vietnam, but he cannot stand the sight or sound of Kerry, he said he is a traitor if not to the country then to the people still serving and those that were POWs at the time he was before the senate.
Most interesting. A federal document has possibly been altered or forged. Surely no clerk would make a mistake like that, it's adding something totally illogical to a military record.
He got 6 medals and threw 10. What a liar.
It could easily have been a mistake. They're typed up one after the other. I can't imagine altering a DD214 over something like this. But like most of the Kerry medal issue, it would be so easy to put to sleep. He was an ambitious (politically, not in terms of a military career), opportunistic officer, doing his duty thirty five years ago with a bit of embellishment for the girls back home. Big deal, he wasn't Chesty Puller, most aren't. But he can't bring himself to that conclusion, and there the character flaw lies. IMO a man very uncomfortable with his past.
Seems odd to me that Kerry never attended any specialized service schools or courses during his enlistment, at least
none are listed.
A Silver star and advanced courses are typical rungs of the ladder, but it seems JFnK had a different ladder in mind.
You're right, his "career" was going nowhere. I think it's fair to assume that while JFnK was climbing a political ladder of his own ambition, if he had had career ambitions in the Navy, his superiors, weren't about to advance them.
Ironically, Hackworth, who went after Boorda (perhaps deservedly), and who is refraining from criticizing Kerry, seems to have forgotten he didn't go to Ranger school, and got caught with an undeserved Ranger tab.
Integrity and the truth matter a lot. It turns out that the "Ministry of Forgiveness" guy who goes around apologising for naplaming that girl in the famous picture could not have ordered pizza, much less an air strike, at the time.
Kerry has a very similar history of regretting on our behalf, on the basis of inflated and fictional experiences.
I didn't mean to sound like a smart aleck -- I just am not familiar with the rules for such things. I notice, however, that ALL of the vets who have pointed this out are irate about this lapse! This is viewed as far more serious than a typo.
BUMP FOR SWIFT VET AD2... http://www.swiftvets.com/
and yet 35% of veterans still poll for Kerry
Tell that to Admiral Boorda.
Boorda's dead, Jim.
Were you in during that period? The guys who handled my records (Army) were often guys on a detail like KP or guard duty. Why try to corral this smoke when there are substantial issues to deal with?
Boorda's dead, Jim.
Yes, Boorda died precisely over the issue of a falsified Combat V.
"Trivial" is in the eye of the beholder.
Were you in during that period? The guys who handled my records (Army) were often guys on a detail like KP or guard duty. Why try to corral this smoke when there are substantial issues to deal with?
Did one of them during "that period" happen to be a SECNAV named "John Lehman"? John Lehman was SECNAV from 5 Feb 1981 - 10 Apr 1987 yet his signature is what is on Kerry's Bronze Star citation for something that happened in Vietnam in 1969.
Is the Combat V annotation to the Silver Star a Vietnam era mistake or a post-Vietnam era embellishment for the benefit of civilian voters who don't know any better?
Whether we like it or not, in our democracy, elections turn on trivialities such as if JFK looked better than Nixon on TV because Nixon refused to wear make-up or whether Dukakis looked like a dork while riding a tank.
This embellishment might seems like a "trivilaty" but it is one more piece of evidence in a pattern of behavior.
The "substatial issue" here is the credibility of John Kerry and how Kerry lies until he gets caught.
For example, earlier Kerry campaign biographies correctly stated that he was discharged from the Naval Reserves in 1978.
Howver, now that such a date looks bad considering his anti-war activities in the early 1970's, the Kerry biography has now been falsified and is being dutifully reported by the Associated Press as follows:
Thanks for your information. I just found out that one of my grandmother's brothers won the Silver Star in WWI. Now I'm ging to have to check this out and see what I can find out.
Several of my uncles were in WWII. Several received awards and decorations, None would talk about it, nor did the survivors of those who died.
I did not even know that my uncle who was just out of boot camp and stationed at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941 was on the first ship out of the harbor when the bombing started. They fired at the planes with rifles from the dick of their destroyer (The Detroit). He never told the story or collected any decorations. He always said they weren't important to him.
I know he was wounded later in the war and spent time in the hospital, but he wouldn't talk about it.
The only way I know about Pearl is that several family members happened to be on a trip together and we took the tour boat out to the Arizona Monument (he never had wanted to visit Hawaii again, but his wife talked him into it as a stop on the way to China). The tour guide recounted the episode and the credit that was given to men of USSN Detroit for their bravery for leading the other ships out of the Harbor, thus saving some of the Navy.
I looked over at my uncle because we knew that that was his ship, and he was quietly weeping. I was shocked because he was such a big strong, accomplished man. He went from being a rowdy 17 year old volunteer recruit to being a man on one fateful morning in December, 1941.
John Kerry is a wimp compared to my uncles.
bttt...
I can't go along with this one. When I was applying for VA benefits in the 70's the VA official laughed and said, "Son, your DD214 is just a mess of mistakes!" I was worried and asked him if that was a problem? He replied, "No, 90% of them are. But you have to remember, the poor clerk filling them out in a dark tent, lit only with candles, using a manual typewriter, was doing the best that he could."
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