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John Kerry's Mysterious Combat ā€œVā€-Even his questionable Silver Star is illegally embellished
FrontpageMagazine ^ | 8-19-04 | Henry Mark Holzer and Erika Holzer

Posted on 08/20/2004 4:48:54 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Excuase me. Kerry had the Secratary of the Nave, in the early 1980's, change and embelish his Silver Star award documentation. That has been proven.

If I read the above article correctly, when Kerry had the language changed on his SS documentation they got it wrong. Once again, Kerry is lieing to the public. I think that this should be a big deal.

41 posted on 08/20/2004 7:03:48 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider ((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!))
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To: boxerblues

While we are picking nits:
"Vietnam Service Medal w/ 4 bronze stars"
The service medal is awarded for being in VN during a certain time period (campaigN) as defined in:
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/stream/faq45-25.htm
When I look at his dates of service from:
http://www.vietnamwar.net/Kerry-2.htm
It looks like he should only have 3 bronze stars on his service medal.


42 posted on 08/20/2004 7:06:16 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (So many questions for Kerry - so few answers from Kerry)
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To: Jet Jaguar

"Silver Stars are the 3rd or 4th highest precedent medals that can be given. A combat V is unnecessary on a silver star. It would be akin to giving a V to a Medal of Honor winner. The award itself already includes a valor in combat connotation."

HERE! HERE!

This only emphasizes the fact that kommiekerry ONLY went to Viet Nam TO GET POLITICAL CREDS HIS MENTOR TEDDY DIDN'T HAVE!!!!! Cold, calculating, manipulation! He may really believe he has a destiny to rule. All the more reason NOT to trust the guy! I saw careerists during my time in the Corps, and found them to be a major drain on the life of the unit. This guy is the KING of all careerists!

Socialism SUCKS!


43 posted on 08/20/2004 7:16:42 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Government might not be too bad...................if it weren't for all the polititians!")
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To: ProudVet77

I did not follow the Boorda case, but wasn't his suicide related to him being exposed as having "embellished" his record and claimed or worn medals he didn't earn?


44 posted on 08/20/2004 7:20:28 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: eno_
WOW! Check this out: BOORDA committed suicide over "Vs" he didn't earn, AND HACKWORTH MADE UP THE PART ABOUT BEING A RANGER!!!! From CNN:

Boorda, 56, committed suicide less than two hours after he learned that reporters would be questioning him about two pins on ribbon decorations that he had worn.

He left notes lamenting the coming disclosure that he had improperly worn the two bronze "V" pins, which normally are awarded for valor in combat.

Ranger? Not

From his home in Montana, Hackworth told CNN by telephone Thursday that he recently found out that he was not entitled to a Ranger tab, an insignia worn on the shoulder of a uniform.

Normally, it indicates that the wearer has completed one of the Army's toughest training courses, a rigorous entry to one of the service's most elite groups. Hackworth said he thought he earned the Ranger insignia during his service in the Korean War.

He also told CNN he found that the Army had given him two Distinguished Flying Cross medals, when he had only earned one.

In both cases, Hackworth says the mistakes were made by the Army, not him. Before he died, Boorda said he thought he had earned the medals in question during service in the Vietnam War.

45 posted on 08/20/2004 7:25:30 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: donozark
Keep in mind now, this makes three Democrats that have been taken apart over Vietnam. The brothers Kerrey/Kerry and Max Cleland

Four. You forget Harkin's previous lie about flying combat missions in Vietnam was exposed (again) after he went after Cheney for not serving during the Vietnam era.

I think the 'V' device is an issue simply because, once again, it points to Kerry being deceitful about his actions and his records during his four months in Vietnam.

46 posted on 08/20/2004 8:01:04 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Designate - Infiltrate - Annihilate // Read my lips: More new taxes - John Kerry)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I went back to the Kerry website. John Lehman did sign the citation as Secretary of the Navy, a position, as you correctly stated, he held from 1981 to 1987.

I also find it interesting that no dates indicating when the Silver and Bronze Star citations were written appear on the documents. What is the 1st thing you put on a letter?

47 posted on 08/20/2004 8:08:58 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: VeniVidiVici

True. But Barry Goldwater exposed Harkin years ago. Sadly, voters in IA let him slide...As did the rest of America. Harkin was in no-way savaged (or perceived to be savaged) by the rest of America.


48 posted on 08/20/2004 8:12:36 AM PDT by donozark (I fought at the Battle of Kimchi Ridge. The gas...the gas...it was HORRIBLE!)
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To: ExtremeUnction

"I checked his web site. It says the V is with the Bronze one. Don't think this argument will fly. There is plenty out there, but not this."

Check out his DD214. It shows both a Silver Star and a Bronze Star with Combat V's


49 posted on 08/20/2004 9:05:49 AM PDT by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: SJackson
JOHN KERRY=
Traitor
Pronunciation: 'trA-t&r
Etymology: Middle English traitre, from Old French, to hand over, deliver, betray
1 : One who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty...
2 : One who commits treason...

50 posted on 08/20/2004 9:08:11 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: eno_

Boorda, 56, committed suicide less than two hours after he learned that reporters would be questioning him about two pins on ribbon decorations that he had worn.

He left notes lamenting the coming disclosure that he had improperly worn the two bronze "V" pins, which normally are awarded for valor in combat.


51 posted on 08/20/2004 9:16:37 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Wife of a Vietnam Vet)
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To: hflynn
The Silver Star was never awarded with a V because it is only awarded for heroism in combat, therefore there was never a need to distinquish why the award was made to the recipient.

You mean you can't have heroic heroism in battle?

52 posted on 08/20/2004 11:58:20 AM PDT by Parthalan
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To: Parthalan
Webster: heroism, 1. the quality or state of being heroic; 2. heroric conduct; . . . . .

Okay Dufus?

53 posted on 08/20/2004 12:29:45 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: Beckwith

The link works for me! And it says SS with Combat V. It also says Bronze Star with Combat V. Both medals are listed with a Combat V. I think the Vets in the original Front Page story are complaining that any military person knows that the SS is never worn with a Combat V -- it's redundant. And that any Vet would have petitioned to have the paperwork corrected.

I know it sounds nit picky to those who are not Vets, but apparently it's a big deal. It certainly is a big deal when it concerns someone who has had these papers revised several times over the years and massaged them to look good in his various political campaigns.


54 posted on 08/20/2004 12:47:25 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
19 years in the US Senate. What did he accomplish ?

5 Bills (at least three were self serving to his district) and 4 co-sponsors.

That's 9 pieces of legislation over 19 years. At an average salary of just under $100k, I figure that legislation cost the taxpayers just under $200,000 per Bill. I want my money back!

55 posted on 08/20/2004 12:52:19 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Eric in the Ozarks

Excuse me -- my math is bad. Done on the calculator, that figures to $211,111.11 per piece of legislation. Now I really want my money back!


56 posted on 08/20/2004 12:54:32 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: hflynn
Despite your flame I will kindly and gently inform you that that was sarcasm. I tried to place in parenthesis the word "sarcasm" but apparently it did not make it into my post.

So thank you for kindly and gently letting me know that you took a great deal of offense at what I posted.

57 posted on 08/20/2004 12:58:42 PM PDT by Parthalan
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I think three of these were "honorariums" recognizing someone... Big deal.


58 posted on 08/20/2004 1:10:59 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Hatteras
Hateras.....my sentiments exactly.....

Effingkerry......LIAR is his name, HEROISM is his game.

59 posted on 08/20/2004 1:26:40 PM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: Burlem

Here it is.


60 posted on 08/20/2004 3:13:11 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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