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Apple to Recall 28,000 Laptop Batteries
Yahoo News ^ | 8/19/04 | Andy Sullivan

Posted on 08/19/2004 3:37:38 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather
"Apple has received four reports of overheating though no injuries have been reported, the consumer protection agency said."

FOUR, (4), the number between three and five... reports of overheating and they are recalling the batteries. THAT is service.

It is also obvious from this article that the Korean manufacturer is picking up the tab, not Apple... probably because their product does not meet Apple's stringent specs.

41 posted on 08/25/2004 8:33:27 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: applemac_g4
Then came the rash of screen and logic board failures with the iBook G3 (square, not purse shaped) computers - which, by the way, has not been fixed.

Ahem, yes it has... and Apple is offering a free repair.

42 posted on 08/25/2004 8:36:53 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: Libloather

ummmm windows is hardware now?


43 posted on 08/26/2004 6:54:27 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Libloather

Anyone know what battery chemistry and voltage are used in these units?


44 posted on 08/26/2004 7:00:20 AM PDT by krb
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To: Swordmaker
It is also obvious from this article that the Korean manufacturer is picking up the tab, not Apple... probably because their product does not meet Apple's stringent specs.

It's refreshing to note that Apple is such a big fan of outsourcing jobs to foreign countries... /SARCASM
45 posted on 08/26/2004 8:31:08 AM PDT by Bush2000
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>Ahem, yes it has... and Apple is offering a free repair.

That's a logic board repair "extension" program. All that means is that if you have the failure occur outside of your standard warranty, that they will cover the fix for a somewhat extended period of time.

All this will do is reset the clock till your next failure since no redesign of the flawed components has been done.

(I know people with these machines that have had 2 or even 3 logic board or screen failures within the span of a couple of years...)


46 posted on 08/26/2004 9:00:58 AM PDT by applemac_g4
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To: antiRepublicrat

>That's the old way. These days the price for what you get in
>Apple hardware is competitive. It was a surprise to me too
>when it happened.

Go to www.apple.com and build the fastest Powerbook G4 laptop with the 15 inch screen that they offer. Then go to www.hp.com and build the fastest AMD 64 powered laptop that they offer. If you use the same specs (hard drive size, memory size, etc), the difference will be a shock. It's an even bigger shock when comparing desktop units.

(By the way - excellent username...)


47 posted on 08/26/2004 9:06:34 AM PDT by applemac_g4
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To: applemac_g4

You're right, the laptops will be behind in performance until they get newer hardware. The desktops are much more competitive, often giving much better value in the workstation range. If you're not just going for all-out speed, an iMac is actually pretty competitive with a Dell in the same area.


48 posted on 08/26/2004 11:13:41 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Then go to www.hp.com and build the fastest AMD 64 powered laptop that they offer.

Sure, if you want a machine that's insanely faster than the G4-crippled PB, you'll pay for it. If, on the other hand, you're willing to settle for merely ridiculously faster, you can get it for a fair bit less. Go trick out an Inspiron 9100 from Dell, and save money versus the comparably-equipped but underpowered Apple.

49 posted on 08/26/2004 6:20:52 PM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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Anyone know what battery chemistry and voltage are used in these units?

Nope. (Too much of one or both - eh?) Say, when the salesdood tells me "Apple is HOT", how many holes should I expect it to burn in my britches?

Please, stay safe...

50 posted on 08/26/2004 8:30:38 PM PDT by Libloather (What did Bergler stow - and when did he stow it?)
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It's refreshing to note that Apple is such a big fan of outsourcing jobs to foreign countries... /SARCASM

You are making an idiotic argument. /Humor

Last time I checked Dell Technical Support has people who understand Hindi better than they do English...

Apple buys components from many sources... as does Dell, the Cowbox Company, IBM, and any generic PC company.

51 posted on 08/26/2004 10:40:28 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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Apple buys components from many sources...

But the others don't seem to have a problem with overheating - like Apple does. Blame some idiot in Indonesia? That's the easy route - no?

52 posted on 08/26/2004 11:07:49 PM PDT by Libloather (What did Bergler stow - and when did he stow it?)
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But the others don't seem to have a problem with overheating - like Apple does. Blame some idiot in Indonesia? That's the easy route - no?

And exactly HOW MANY reports of overheating has Apple had???

Four.

Four reported overheating batteries and Apple recalls 28,000. Perhaps there are more overheating batteries out there in HP, Dell and Gateway laptops but those companies elected NOT to recall them.

Apple was not required by any agency to recall these batteries and replace them free of charge... but they are.

53 posted on 08/27/2004 12:35:48 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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Four reported overheating batteries and Apple recalls 28,000. Perhaps there are more overheating batteries out there in HP, Dell and Gateway laptops but those companies elected NOT to recall them.

How many battery, notebook, etc recalls has Dell had, just out of curiosity? You're quick to pick up rocks and thrown them at other vendors without any kind of proof. Put up or shut up.
54 posted on 08/27/2004 9:20:15 AM PDT by Bush2000
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Last time I checked Dell Technical Support has people who understand Hindi better than they do English... Apple buys components from many sources... as does Dell, the Cowbox Company, IBM, and any generic PC company.

It may surprise you to learn that many of those components used by Apple, Dell, etc come from the same source -- and yet you trolls continue to cling to the illusion that there's some kind of illusory quality difference. One difference: Dell tends to avoid components that incinerate or explode.
55 posted on 08/27/2004 9:22:32 AM PDT by Bush2000
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It may surprise you to learn that many of those components used by Apple, Dell, etc come from the same source -- and yet you trolls continue to cling to the illusion that there's some kind of illusory quality difference. One difference: Dell tends to avoid components that incinerate or explode.,p> No, Bush, it doesn't surprise me because that is what I just said.

As I have mentioned at least TWICE before, only 4, FOUR, ONE less than five, complaints of overheating were received.

I suggest you watch the use of epithets such as "troll" on this site... that has a perjorative meaning on FreeRepublic and I resent your usage here.

56 posted on 08/27/2004 10:54:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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How many battery, notebook, etc recalls has Dell had, just out of curiosity? You're quick to pick up rocks and thrown them at other vendors without any kind of proof. Put up or shut up.

Bush, First of all I have not thrown ANY rocks at other vendors...

But you should know it is a truism that a lawyer arguing a case should NEVER ask a question to which he does not know the answer...

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Faulty battery sparks Dell recall

Last modified: May 2, 2001, 11:00 PM PDT

By Michael Kanellos
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Dell Computer will recall about 284,000 notebook batteries due to a flaw that has caused at least one notebook to catch fire, CNET News.com has learned.

The recall centers on a design flaw in batteries incorporated in Inspiron 5000 and 5000(e) notebooks, according to sources. The flaw resides in the battery packaging and can cause the notebooks to overheat, sources said.

To date, one notebook has caught fire because of the problem, prompting the recall. Panasonic manufactured the batteries. The models came to the market in January 2000 and were retired in March 2001. The flawed batteries are found in some, but not all, Inspiron 5000s.

A Dell spokesman contacted late in the day confirmed that a recall announcement was forthcoming.

The recall will no doubt be an embarrassment to Dell, which prides itself on service and reliability. The company often ranks first in customer-satisfaction surveys, a fact that Dell markets aggressively.

In the first quarter, Dell also became the world's largest PC company in terms of PCs shipped, according to Gartner and IDC. Last October, Dell voluntarily recalled approximately 27,000 batteries found inside certain Latitude notebooks because of an overheating problem. In that instance, Sanyo manufactured the batteries. The batteries, but not the notebooks, were replaced.

Gartner analyst Mark Margevicius says with this event…Dell is recalling more than 10 times the number of computers it did in last October's recall.

In the October recall, Dell created a Web site in 13 languages that identified by serial number the defective batteries and informed customers how to get repairs. The recall was performed in conjunction with the Consumer Product Safety Commission. Similar programs will likely be instituted for the current recall.

Latitude notebooks are generally sold to the business market, while Inspiron notebooks are sold to consumers and businesses.

In the past two years, Dell has grappled with other recalls and repairs as well.

This past February, the company discovered a problem with the way a graphics chip from Nvidia interacts with the motherboard in the OptiPlex GX200 corporate computers.

In March 2000, Dell found that it had incorporated faulty memory in several thousand Inspiron and Latitude notebooks manufactured in 1999. Dell agreed to replace the memory free of charge.

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Et Tu, Dell? Dell Recalls Notebook PC Power Adapter Cords

Posted by Terry C. Shannon
Friday July 02 2004 @ 09:39PM EDT

1 July 2004--What do notebook PCs and automobiles have in common? Recall notices. Less than a week after HP discovered a flaw in certain third party notebook memory modules whose infrequent appearances lead to system freezes, corrupted memory, and even the notorious Blue Screen of Death, the firm publicized the problem and a voluntary online memory recall and replacement process for HP and Compaq notebook users. The flaw discovered by HP could affect as many as 900K notebooks produced by a variety of vendors worldwide. Two days later, Dell and Mobility Electronics announced an offer to replace the power adapter cords on about 38K Dell notebooks to avoid potential electrical shocks for their owners.

Dell is curently contacting customers who purchased its Dell Combination Auto/Air Power Adapter, offered as an accessory for Dell Inspiron and Latitude notebooks. Dell began selling the adapter accessory in January 2004 for between $90 and $110 USD.

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I have PUT UP so I suggest that YOU shut up.

57 posted on 08/27/2004 11:15:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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