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Laura Bush Possibly Changes Her Mind on Abortion, Says She's Pro-Life
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| August 19, 2004
| Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/19/2004 1:48:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
In a 2000 interview with Barbara Walters, Walters asked her if she was pro-life and she said, "I'm pro-life". I don't know what the deal was with the Couric interview.
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posted on
08/19/2004 1:50:07 PM PDT
by
IrishGOP
To: nickcarraway
That does not sound right at all.
To: Lady In Blue; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; SpookBrat; Brad's Gramma; Coleus; MHGinTN; ...
To: nickcarraway
Asked on Thursday whether she is now pro-life, the First Lady responded, "Yes, I think abortion should be rare." Too cute by half. Depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
Laura Bush also told Times reporter Bill Sammon that she agreed with President Bush that human life begins at conception.
So does John Kerry.
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posted on
08/19/2004 1:54:24 PM PDT
by
Romulus
(Why change Horsemen in the middle of the Apocalypse?)
To: Spackidagoosh
I saw the interview in which she said she supported Roe vs. Wade on TV. I was shocked.
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posted on
08/19/2004 2:01:24 PM PDT
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: nickcarraway
It is a tenable position to hold that government restriction of abortion is an unacceptable invasion of privacy without accepting utilitarian arguments in favor of abortion.
Roe vs. Wade is primarily a privacy argument.
Support for embryonic stem cell research requires a utilitarian conclusion that the value of the research outweighs the value of the life sacrificed.
Support for Roe vs. Wade is a "Pro-Choice" position. Support for embryonic stem cell research is a "Pro-Abortion" position. There is a difference.
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posted on
08/19/2004 2:01:51 PM PDT
by
bondjamesbond
(We live in a wonderful country where any child can grow up to be the next Ronald Reagan.)
To: grania
This is why I VOTE REPUBLICAN!
MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Aborted baby's head left inside woman
Couple horrified to find face of child after returning home
Posted: August 19, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A British hospital is now investigating the case of a woman who had an abortion, but then was shocked to find out the head of her unborn baby had been left inside her.
Davina Chambers, 29, became pregnant this year with her fourth child, but she had just been diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis, a disease eating away at her liver.
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"In January, I was a patient at King's College Hospital because I was jaundiced," Chambers told the Voice, which bills itself as Britain's best black newspaper. "The doctors wanted me to stay in the hospital, but after a week I told them that they had to let me out because I had to go home to take care of my three children. My children have always been my priorities. They're my angels."
Chambers became an outpatient at the facility, going in for checkups every two weeks as she needed continual monitoring.
It was during routine medical tests she discovered she was 12 weeks pregnant.
"At the time I was taking eight tablets a day and had all this radiation from the scans, so I couldn't believe that I could be pregnant," she told the paper.
Chambers made the difficult decision to have an abortion.
"I started thinking about it. Here I am very ill, already with three children, and I was very depressed because of the medication I was on."
She was booked into the hospital for the procedure, and even chose to have a coil contraceptive inserted to prevent any future pregnancies.
"When I woke up on the ward, they said that I had had three scans and everything was fine," she told the Voice.
But once she returned home, an unseemly problem began to make itself known.
Davina Chambers and the face of her unborn child (courtesy: The Voice)
"At midnight, my ex-partner knocked on the door to check if I was all right. ... I went to the bathroom and as I was sitting there, I just felt something slip out of me as if I had just given birth. I looked in the toilet and saw this lump that seemed to have a bone in it. So I showed it to my former partner."
The couple realized they were looking at the face of their unborn child, seeing the eyes, nose, mouth and ears. The tiny head measured no more than 4 centimeters.
"We just broke down and cried at what we were seeing. We couldn't believe it," Chambers sobbed to the paper.
"I phoned an ambulance and they took me to the hospital to make sure that no other parts were left inside of me. They said I could have died if it had stayed inside me."
She was able to discuss the situation with the doctor who had performed her abortion.
"He leaned over my bedside and said, 'I am so sorry. In all the procedures I've done, I've never come across this,'" she said. "He even tried to take the head away, but I said I wanted to keep it because we wanted to have a proper burial."
A distraught Chambers is now seeking legal advice on what to do next.
"I feel as if I'm going insane now; I can't just let this happen to me," she said.
A spokeswoman for King's College Hospital told the Voice: "We are aware of this patient and we did receive a complaint. We are now investigating but we cannot release any information until our investigation is complete."
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posted on
08/19/2004 2:02:54 PM PDT
by
JFC
To: nickcarraway
The position that "abortion" should be rare is a centrist pro-life stance. Essentially, it avoids the pro-abortionist stance, and favors preventive social measures to reduce the number of women who request abortions.
The primary measures for this is education, parental involvement, and community discussions with the youth about responsible sexual behavior.
If you can't stop children from having sex, you engage them in the discussion about responsibility sex engenders. Centrists want the families with children, with the support of community programs, to begin these discussions. Strangers from Planned Parenthood have no place in such a discussion, except in the extreme where there are no reliable or trust worthy adults.
I think kids are growing up to fast these days. I may only be 25, but when I was between 13-18, only the bad kids engaged in sexual type behavior and they were maybe one in twenty. Today, the same age group seems to have a ratio of 1 out of 2, or 50%, and possibly higher.
The increase in the ratio seems to be directly related to the parental involvement and community involvement... that is, the less involved the community and the parents, the more sexually active the students become after the age of 13.
To: cpforlife.org
===== In August 2001, President Bush put forward an executive order **preventing taxpayer funding of any new embryonic stem cell research.**
(**read**: granting his own a monopoly on the NIH budget he'd doubled while rendering moot any use of "human research" given the brand-new definition of non-person predicated by his ESCR decision)
==== Last week, the First Lady came to the defense of her husband's policy on embryonic stem cell research.
==== Laura Bush also told Times reporter Bill Sammon that she agreed with President Bush that human life begins at conception.
Brrroooiiinnngggg ....
This makes perfect sense, no? THANK GOODNESS the liberal media -- once again -- is helping to give the impression our leadership is "pro-life" and their initiatives somehow respect the right to life from the moment of conception to natural death.
In response to critics who contend the decision stalls important scientific research, Laura Bush promoted the use of adult stem cells and sided with numerous doctors who say such cures, if they happen, are likely many years away.
Her actions prompted a Washington Times reporter to ask Laura Bush whether she has changed her mind on the issue of abortion.
Asked on Thursday whether she is now pro-life, the First Lady responded, "Yes, I think abortion should be rare."
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posted on
08/19/2004 2:08:16 PM PDT
by
Askel5
(† Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
To: JFC
The couple realized they were looking at the face of their unborn child, seeing the eyes, nose, mouth and ears. The tiny head measured no more than 4 centimeters. I don't know why she is upset. She had it mutilated. So she had to look in her dead child's face...good.
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posted on
08/19/2004 2:08:47 PM PDT
by
Taliesan
(fiction police)
To: JFC
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posted on
08/19/2004 2:11:55 PM PDT
by
Christian4Bush
(I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
To: Spackidagoosh
This LifeNews site is a joke. They twist facts worse than the National Enquirer.
To: JFC
...just been diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis, a disease eating away at her liver. In that woman's case I support her decision to have an abortion.
To: Taliesan
And now she's seeking "legal help" because she's so distraught.
No wonder.
When forced to confront ones own eveil, selfish choices, it often results in confusion, depression, and a loss of mental facilities.
The translation ought to be, "I screwed up, yet I was forced to own up to my 'choice'...and it freaked me out! Someone pay me!"
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posted on
08/19/2004 2:13:27 PM PDT
by
ItsOurTimeNow
(I have the right to remain silent....but not the ability.)
To: nickcarraway
In response to critics who contend the decision stalls important scientific research, Laura Bush promoted the use of adult stem cells... That's pretty much what I've been saying for the past few years. The prohibition on the use of embryonic stem cells does not kill the research; it simply assures that all whose stems cells are used are voluntary test subjects.
The civilized world made it clear following the destruction of Nazi Germany that any medical research using involuntary subjects should never be legitimized. That's why we can never legitimize embryonic stem cell research. Period.
Huh...and the Leftists dare to refer to Bush as Hitler. If anything, they're worse than Hitler with their abominable genocide of the unborn.
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posted on
08/19/2004 2:17:02 PM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
To: Taliesan
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posted on
08/19/2004 2:20:27 PM PDT
by
sine_nomine
(Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
To: nickcarraway
The success of the pro-choice movement has always been on how they frame the question. "You have a right to your own body and your own privacy" frames the question in such a way that many young women are seduced into this political question with no apologies and no restrictions.
Perhaps the way to reduce abortions before the elimination of Roe VS Wade, is to have every abortion preceded by an imaging of the child. The mother would then have to review the image and sign off on the procedure as a function of "informed consent." Most women having an abortion have an internal image of the "fetus" being akin to a lump of jello.
To: nickcarraway
That is what happened to her Father in Law.
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posted on
08/19/2004 2:20:51 PM PDT
by
Meldrim
To: JFC
What a horrifying situation! She will have to live with the atrocity she committed for the rest of her life; I pray our Lord grants her repentance.
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