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Keyes won't back down on reparations
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 8/19/04 | SCOTT FORNEK

Posted on 08/19/2004 5:27:04 AM PDT by kattracks

His voice rising to a yell, Republican U.S. Senate nominee Alan Keyes told a bipartisan civic group Wednesday he "will not budge" from his belief that descendants of slaves should be exempted from income taxes to help heal the wounds of past discrimination and segregation.

The former presidential candidate disdainfully brushed aside questions over whether his suggestion should apply to rich African Americans such as Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan or Oprah Winfrey.

"Do you know how many Oprah Winfreys there might have been running around in the 1930s or in the 1920s or in the 19-teens that got nowhere because the doors were shut in their face?" Keyes thundered. "If you think that because I wear a conservative label, I have forgotten that history and am not mindful of that injustice -- then I will tell you now that you are wrong."

Keyes delivered his blistering defense at a luncheon of the City Club of Chicago, scolding fellow conservatives who challenged his proposal and evoking the struggle of his African-American parents, saying they had talent and "hearts and spirit and strength and faith."

"Why didn't they get to a point where they could stand on this platform?" Keyes aked.

Vying against Democrat Barack Obama, Keyes drew heat from conservatives earlier this week when he proposed exempting descendants of slaves from income taxes for a generation or two, a view he insists "involves a traditionally Republican, conservative and market-oriented approach."

On Wednesday, Keyes ridiculed the fuss over his position, saying it is simply a tax break, something "Republicans and my conservative brethren" don't object to when applied to a "wealthy corporation."

Conservative activist Jack Roeser met with Keyes for what Roeser called "a long argument and an intense one" over the issue before the speech. A Barrington businessman, Roeser said he still is not sold on Keyes' reparations proposal, but still plans to support him anyway. "I will tell my friends that this is a good man, and we should support him."



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To: cicero's_son
Any reduction in taxes is a good thing. Period.

If you're just shifting the tax burden, it's not a good thing, ESPECIALLY if it's race-based.

421 posted on 08/19/2004 1:03:36 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Catspaw

I hope they will vote for Keyes.
I'd love to see the democrats' GREAT BLACK HOPE lose.


422 posted on 08/19/2004 1:04:05 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: cicero's_son
Taxation is not a zero-sum game, or at least it need not be.

Tell it to Keyes. He seems to have forgotten to include the "your tax amnesty shall come as a result of a reduction in the actual tax burden placed on the population as a whole" in his harebrained scam.

423 posted on 08/19/2004 1:04:16 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: onyx
OUR enemies are democrats.
I wish folks would understand THAT.

Tell that to the Keyes-bashers, not to me.

They have been attacking a Republican Senate nominee for almost two weeks now.

Have you participated?

424 posted on 08/19/2004 1:04:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
I don't have much of an opinion on this except to say that if there is a segment of the population not paying taxes those of us who are would have to carry more of the load. Go back just two generations and all of my ancestors are Native Americans from up state New York. As far back as my family knows we never had any slaves, but If they (the government )ever makes me pay for one, they better give me one! Race isn't important but if I have to pay for a slave then I should get one!

If we can get the Black population on-board the income tax-cutting/elimination bandwagon, the Dems will never win another election.
425 posted on 08/19/2004 1:04:27 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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To: Don Joe
You'd better hope I don't. If I do, you'll be hearing from my widow's attorney. For real.

Well, I sure hope you don't have a heart attack. But give up the whining-victimhood-it's everybody else's fault routine.

426 posted on 08/19/2004 1:04:34 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
It wasn't the smartest thing for Keyes to say

Why on earth did he say it? Good grief, there are so many Muslims and Mexicans in Illinois, he should focus on that problem. We're losing our country, but the Republican party is ignoring it, along with the Democrats who brought us Kennedy's ungodly immigration bill in '75.

However, I'd love to see Keyes in public office. What fun!

427 posted on 08/19/2004 1:06:08 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: Don Joe

Selective editing, my A**. You just don't like the fact that you'ce been accurately pegged.


428 posted on 08/19/2004 1:06:26 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
I don't know what you're referring to as far as my history, but I know what you're saying is not nice.

Not nice, tres drole.

Don't play the ingenue. You come in here, sh!tting on anyone who dares to speak the truth about this insanity, and then when your targets don't fold up and go home, you start playing cute?

Not nice?

It's not nice to sh!t all over a high target thread by spamming the same threatening demands over and over, and then start playing the coy little girl when you're cornered.

Why don't you find some other ankle to nip at for a while?

429 posted on 08/19/2004 1:07:30 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Junior_G
If you're just shifting the tax burden, it's not a good thing

I agree, but that's not what Keyes has said. He has never given any indication that he would raise anyone else's taxes in order to offset the reductions given to descendents of slaves. Now, if he were a Democrat, I'd simply assume that this was a part of his "plan," but I have a hard time imagining Alan Keyes arguing for an increase in anyone's taxes.

Someone else on this thread just made another great point in support of his proposal: if it gets African Americans thinking in terms of personal economic empowerment and tax reductions, the Democrats wouldn't win another national election in our lifetimes.

430 posted on 08/19/2004 1:07:40 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: kattracks

Well, I guess all those who said "Keyes should quit trying to make everything about abortion" got their wish!


431 posted on 08/19/2004 1:07:51 PM PDT by WillRain
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To: EternalVigilance

To be totally honest,
I have not followed your posts,
because they usually tee me off. LOL!

As you know, the "qualified" candidate
does not always win.

On Keyes, we are on the same team.

I look at the big picture.
I despise democrats save for Zell Miller
and maybe a few in the House.


432 posted on 08/19/2004 1:08:25 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: onyx
I hope they will vote for Keyes.

I don't know what they're going to do. They aren't terribly political--I do know they voted for Bush in 2000 (at least I remember seeing a Bush bumper sticker on their minivan the summer after the election)--but whether they're Keyes voters is another matter entirely. I figure I'll start off with, "what do you think about Alan Keyes?" and go from there.

433 posted on 08/19/2004 1:08:56 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Don Joe

Michael Medved just called Keyes a "nutburger".

After that, he called him "deranged".

Reparations plan: "Outrageous". "Sickening". "Disgusting."

Doesn't even know if he could vote for him if he lived in Illinois - called him an embarrassment.

(Just reporting what Medved thinks.)


434 posted on 08/19/2004 1:09:13 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I have thought about it, and I admit that I'm baffled by the proposal. If it is a precursor for tax cuts for all, then why doesn't Keyes cut to the chase and come right out for tax cuts for all?

It's not that baffling really. He needs Black votes if he's going to win or even be competitive. This issue is a missile aimed directly at Barak Obama--the child of an African whose ancestors were never slaves.

It's never going to come about anyway, so there's no real reason for conservatives to be worried about it. It's a political lever and if we just get out of the way and stop having hissy-fits, it might just propel Dr. Keyes into office.
435 posted on 08/19/2004 1:09:16 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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To: EternalVigilance

Tell that to the Keyes-bashers, not to me.

They have been attacking a Republican Senate nominee for almost two weeks now.

Have you participated?






I have not.


436 posted on 08/19/2004 1:09:24 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: EternalVigilance; onyx
be honest about the fact that Arnold is a pro-abortion liberal who just happened to have a highly qualified conservative opponent in that particular race.

Oh, goodness, you guys, we're not going into a California Recall debate on an Illinois Keyes thread, are we, LOL :o)

437 posted on 08/19/2004 1:09:27 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
But give up the whining-victimhood-it's everybody else's fault routine.

The thought hadn't occured to me, but now that you mention it, it makes a lot of sense.

Why, I'll bet that if I play my cards right, I could even qualify for reparations!

See what you just backed yourself into, son? Don't you just hate when that happens?

Oh, well.

438 posted on 08/19/2004 1:10:21 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: tame; EternalVigilance

No.
The point has been made.
He bashed Arnold, but I
am the grown up (LOL).


439 posted on 08/19/2004 1:11:42 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: onyx

Glad to hear it.


440 posted on 08/19/2004 1:11:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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