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Keyes won't back down on reparations
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 8/19/04 | SCOTT FORNEK

Posted on 08/19/2004 5:27:04 AM PDT by kattracks

His voice rising to a yell, Republican U.S. Senate nominee Alan Keyes told a bipartisan civic group Wednesday he "will not budge" from his belief that descendants of slaves should be exempted from income taxes to help heal the wounds of past discrimination and segregation.

The former presidential candidate disdainfully brushed aside questions over whether his suggestion should apply to rich African Americans such as Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan or Oprah Winfrey.

"Do you know how many Oprah Winfreys there might have been running around in the 1930s or in the 1920s or in the 19-teens that got nowhere because the doors were shut in their face?" Keyes thundered. "If you think that because I wear a conservative label, I have forgotten that history and am not mindful of that injustice -- then I will tell you now that you are wrong."

Keyes delivered his blistering defense at a luncheon of the City Club of Chicago, scolding fellow conservatives who challenged his proposal and evoking the struggle of his African-American parents, saying they had talent and "hearts and spirit and strength and faith."

"Why didn't they get to a point where they could stand on this platform?" Keyes aked.

Vying against Democrat Barack Obama, Keyes drew heat from conservatives earlier this week when he proposed exempting descendants of slaves from income taxes for a generation or two, a view he insists "involves a traditionally Republican, conservative and market-oriented approach."

On Wednesday, Keyes ridiculed the fuss over his position, saying it is simply a tax break, something "Republicans and my conservative brethren" don't object to when applied to a "wealthy corporation."

Conservative activist Jack Roeser met with Keyes for what Roeser called "a long argument and an intense one" over the issue before the speech. A Barrington businessman, Roeser said he still is not sold on Keyes' reparations proposal, but still plans to support him anyway. "I will tell my friends that this is a good man, and we should support him."



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To: Don Joe
Your history speaks for itself, as does my objection to your history of spamming and personal attacks, accusing people of a variety of vile actions. I stand by my description of you.

I don't know what you're referring to as far as my history, but I know what you're saying is not nice.

401 posted on 08/19/2004 12:56:59 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: kattracks

The Federal Government has chosen to enslave us all through their anal-intrusive and ill-begotten IRS and IRC. Alan has a plan to put pressure on the system, turn around some black voters...and I hope it works.


402 posted on 08/19/2004 12:57:02 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: cicero's_son
He's absolutely freaking out.

You are delusional.

..why does he hate Keyes so much???

Yup, quite delusional. Or, lying through your teeth.

403 posted on 08/19/2004 12:57:05 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: tame; nopardons
A little contradiction, there.

A little selective editing there, dork.

Oh, for a killfile...

PS: I suggest you petition for a screen-name change. Something like "Bites" might be a better fit.

404 posted on 08/19/2004 12:58:17 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: swampfox98
However, his statement on reparation, if it is true, makes me livid

Why? It's not costing you anything. Your taxes do not have to go up to pay for this. All that is happening is a tax decrease for a group of people that you happen not to be in.

What is wrong with that?

405 posted on 08/19/2004 12:58:46 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: swampfox98
I voted for Keyes over George Bush in the primaries, so I respect him. However, his statement on reparation, if it is true, makes me livid.

That's reasonable. It wasn't the smartest thing for Keyes to say, but he has my total support.

406 posted on 08/19/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
I can see the guy about to have a heart attack.

You'd better hope I don't. If I do, you'll be hearing from my widow's attorney.

For real.

407 posted on 08/19/2004 12:59:24 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: onyx
Are your cousins voting for Keyes?

They're coming back to Wisconsin over Labor Day for our family picnic. I'll ask them then.

408 posted on 08/19/2004 12:59:41 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: daddyOwe
"How about the descendants of Irish Americans. No Irish need Apply."

how about Dogs & sailors stay off the grass

one of my personal favorites

409 posted on 08/19/2004 1:00:06 PM PDT by SERE_DOC ("9 out of the 10 voices in my head told me to go home & clean my weapons!")
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To: Don Joe
Dude, you are freaking out. You really need to calm down and stop taking everything so personally.

Am I wrong in saying that you hate Keyes? Is "hate" too strong a word?

410 posted on 08/19/2004 1:00:12 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son; swampfox98
It's not costing you anything. Your taxes do not have to go up to pay for this.

Wrong.

Money is fungible.

411 posted on 08/19/2004 1:00:35 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: onyx

Well, if you are interested in honesty, be honest about the fact that Arnold is a pro-abortion liberal who just happened to have a highly qualified conservative opponent in that particular race.

Here's a test: Have you heard me make one peep about Arnold since he became the Republican Governor of California?

If the answer is no, then the accusations you all fling at me are once again proved specious.

And be honest about the fact that the poster you defend accused my of attacking the President; which isn't true.


412 posted on 08/19/2004 1:01:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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To: kattracks
Conservative activist Jack Roeser met with Keyes for what Roeser called "a long argument and an intense one" over the issue before the speech. A Barrington businessman, Roeser said he still is not sold on Keyes' reparations proposal, but still plans to support him anyway. "I will tell my friends that this is a good man, and we should support him."

Says it all. I feel exactly the same way.
413 posted on 08/19/2004 1:01:27 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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To: onyx
Who is Kohn?

Libertarian.

414 posted on 08/19/2004 1:01:30 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
"Why the subterfuge? "

Ding, ding, ding ding, ding, ding. Sorry, I just do that when someone uses my nic in a sentence. Its a Non-Sequitur really. ;^)

415 posted on 08/19/2004 1:01:37 PM PDT by subterfuge (Liberalism is, as liberalism does.)
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To: Don Joe
Ok. So you've accepted the premise that overall taxation levels must remain constant.

I guess that means you'd oppose any tax break on the grounds that some other poor sap out there will have to "pay for it."

416 posted on 08/19/2004 1:01:42 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: swampfox98
I voted for Keyes over George Bush in the primaries, so I respect him. However, his statement on reparation, if it is true, makes me livid.

I've been in a few battles here for not swallowing the koolade. In fact, I had to fight people here when I announced that I was going to vote for Keyes over Bush. Anyhow, nothing bothers me. When I see something that is wrong and stupid I comment.

We seem to be in the same boat -- and it's taking fire from the "true believers", for whom loyalty to the man trumps loyalty to principle.

417 posted on 08/19/2004 1:02:39 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: cicero's_son; Don Joe
CS: ..why does he hate Keyes so much???

DJ: Yup, quite delusional. Or, lying through your teeth.

He says he doesn't hate Keyes, he just thinks he's a moron.

418 posted on 08/19/2004 1:02:42 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Why am I NOT surprised that you would WASTE your vote?

My God. Why not Alan Keyes?


419 posted on 08/19/2004 1:02:43 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: Don Joe
Well, first thing, he'd have to come down from whatever it is he's smoking.

After that point is reached, we can discuss where we go from there. I'm a "once burned, twice shy" kinda guy, after all.

Yes, I know that feeling.

You sound like you've been profoundly disappointed by this particular proposal. It was a shocker, that's for sure!

I'm wondering if he knew that it would be this surprising to many people or if maybe he just came up with it sort of on the spur of the moment and didn't really think it through before he started talking about it. That kind of thing can happen, you know.

420 posted on 08/19/2004 1:03:19 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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