Posted on 08/19/2004 5:05:02 AM PDT by Always Right
The media is having a hay day over the newly discovered proof that there was enemy fire on the day Kerry won his Bronze Star and Purple Heart. Apparently Larry Thurlow who claimed Kerry was not under enemy fire, also won a Bronze Star that day and claimed that he was under enemy fire that day. Thus Thurlow is a liar according to the ‘fact checkers’ in the media. But a simple reading of what Thurlow said shows otherwise. No one ever denied there was enemy fire that day, what was denied is when Kerry returned, the enemy fire had ceased, and Kerry’s injury was from his own grenade. So there was gunfire that day, but for the two incidences that Kerry was awarded for, there was no gun fire. Is the media really this dumb? Can they not read?
Wrong, all the SBV's involved in the incident deny that there was hostile fire that day (outside the mine exploding). It didn't start and then stop before Kerry returned. It never started
Thanks for the clarification.
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Which means if he lied, Kerry lied.
The RATS cannot have it both ways. Anyone have the feeling that Kerry is being setup?
The media dug up Thudlow's citations and it clearly said his bronze star was for actions that occured during enemy fire. Thudlow has said otherwise. He just needs time to get his version out. But until that can happen, the media will go to town with this story.
I cant understand how the media got Thurlows record so fast and yet they cant get Kerry's. They have yet to make any attempt to place Kerrys records on the table they have yet to investigate any of the Charges of the Swift Boat Veterans. Yet they get Thurlows records in minutes.
Kerry has the same friends "inside" as the Clintons did when they got all those FBI files....
The media has fact checkers? Who would have thought?
Oh, is Thurlow conservative? That explains it.
Shalom.
"Anyone have the feeling that Kerry is being setup?"
One can only hope.
John Kerry was awarded medals by the military. Since the military did this, it is true and we can't investigate any further.
President Bush was granted an honorable discharge from the National Guard without problem. But that isn't the end of the story. We need more records; we need witnesses; we need dental records; we need to investigate further. The military determination on this point isn't sufficient.
Thurlow was awarded a medal based on enemy fire. The military says that is what happened, so it's true and everyone else is a liar because the records don't lie.
The military records (including Kerry's own) indicate, or at the absolute minimum strongly suggest, that Kerry never went to Cambodia. Well, that may or may not be right, there may be another explanation, etc. We can't say for sure that the military records are correct on this point.... and so it goes.
Thurlow CONTINUES to say otherwise. He has said again that there was NO enemy fire that afternoon, and that if the citation for his bronze star says that there was, it is wrong.
Thurlow further says that if his bronze star was given based on the enemy fire than it has been tainted by "fraud", and that he is disgusted that an untruthful scenario seems to have played a role in the medal.
Moreover Thurlow has said that he suspects that the erroneous information may have come from John Kerry, and that it DID NOT come from himself.
The reporters acquired this info through the Freedom of Information Act. How is it they have failed to secure all of John Kerry's records??
thanks for the correction. I think THurlow needs to sue. This would stop the smear campaign and get more people investigating what exactly happened that day.
Do purple hearts come with some kind of certificate describing the injury and conditions? If so, it would be expected that Thurlow would have read it and therefore can’t claim ignorance.
My bronze star documentation was 'boiler plate' text. Not sure if others were, but mine certainly was.
The good news is that the whole issue is at least making the front page of the Post, spun the way they want, of course. The Headline is misleading, again, of course.
ALL publicity this gets is long term good. It correctly casts a doubt on his veracity. The real media (non-MSM) keep churning this up. The MSM have to deal with it in some way, even if poorly and slanted.
Numnuts' reception at the VFW convention is making the DNC spin....he's bombing and they know it. There are over 2 million of us Vietnam Vets. In a close election, it will make a difference.
John, we haven't forgotten how you turned your back on us and turned into VC. Our reaction to your treachery is what will be seared, seared into your memory this November.
Funny. I don't think we have yet to see 1300 words devoted to ANYTHING that would be considered directly critical of Kerry.
Funny how motivation works.
(Link to Story: Military records counter a Kerry critic...don't you just love the title; how official it sounds, as if it is the last word on the issue...liberals?)
From what I've learned from the military folks here, I believe there has to be enemy fire for the silver star, but other extraordinary actions can earn a bronze star.
It was Larry Thurlow who jumped on the damaged and floundering Swift Boat that day and brought it back to base.
Someone posted the actual requirements for the bronze star the other day.
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