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Alan Keyes on Reparations (AK contextualizes his comments)
The Illinois Leader ^ | 8-17-2004 | Chicago Bureau

Posted on 08/17/2004 2:38:57 PM PDT by unspun

Alan Keyes on Reparations

Tuesday, August 17, 2004

By The Leader-Chicago Bureau (admin@illinoisleader.com)

CHICAGO -- Republican U.S. Senate candidate Alan Keyes has just released a statement clarifying what appeared to be a surprising position he took at a news conference yesterday.

"I think a cogent argument could be made for reparations in principle," Keyes is quoted as saying to reporters yesterday, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.

The Chicago Tribune expanded:

Keyes gave a brief tutorial on Roman history and said that in regard to reparations for slavery, the U.S. should do what the Romans did: "When a city had been devastated [in the Roman empire], for a certain length of time--a generation or two--they exempted the damaged city from taxation."

Keyes proposed that for a generation or two, African-Americans of slave heritage should be exempted from federal taxes--federal because slavery "was an egregious failure on the part of the federal establishment."

The response from conservatives was immediate. "Who downstate will now vote for Keyes?" wrote IllinoisLeader.com reader Randall Mead of Springfield today. "I certainly won't."

This afternoon, Keyes released the following statement, clarifying his position:

I have consistently opposed the effort to extort monetary damages from the American people. As I have argued in the past, the great sacrifices involved in the Civil War represented the requital in blood and treasure for the terrible injustices involved in slavery. In this form the so called "reparations" movement represents an insult to the historic commitment that many Americans made to the end of slavery, which included the sacrifice of their lives.

I have also consistently maintained that the history of slavery, racial segregation and discrimination did real damage to black Americans, left real and persistent material wounds in need of healing.

In various ways through the generations since the end of slavery, America has tried to address this objective fact, but without real success. This was at least in part the rational for many elements of the Great Society programs of the sixties, and for the original and proper concept of affirmative action developed under Republican leadership during the Nixon years.

Unfortunately, the government-dominated approaches of the Great Society, which purported to heal and repair the legacy of historical damage, actually widened and deepened the wounds. They undermined the moral foundations of the black community and seriously corrupted the family structure and the incentives to work, savings, investment, and business ownership.

The idea I have often put forward to address this challenge involves a traditionally Republican, conservative and market-oriented approach: removing the tax burden from the black community for a generation or two in order to encourage business ownership, create jobs and support the development of strong economic foundations for working families.

This has the advantage of letting people help themselves, rather then pouring money into government bureaucracies that displace and discourage their own efforts. It takes no money from other citizens, while righting the historic imbalance that results from the truth that black slaves toiled for generations at a tax rate that was effectively 100 percent.

I have also made it clear that while I believe that the descendants of slaves would be helped by this period of tax relief, my firm goal and ultimate objective is to replace the income tax, and thereby free all Americans from this insidious form of tax slavery. It is well known that this is one of the key priorities of the Keyes campaign.

In response to Keyes' statement, conservative Jack Roeser of Family Taxpayers Network told IllinoisLeader.com, "I expect Keyes would say this is one of those interesting subjects to be talked about among people sharing ideas. Reparations is an impractical concept. Everybody in every category has been wronged in one or the other, and you cannot single one out."

Roeser continued, "Keyes is a man of ideas, and I expect he gets into discussions like this that are proper in their proper place, but that he would never vote for reparations. The problem with American politics is that people don't get into deep discussions."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: keyes; reparations
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To: sinkspur

He wasn't f-bombing you, he was playing far dirtier than that.

He was carpet-bombing you with the "values-clarification" drug.

That's the virtual WMD of dishonest debate.


541 posted on 08/17/2004 9:35:26 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Antoninus
So let me get this straight--you criticize Keyes for attacking Bush, but you are immune, somehow, from the same criticism for attacking Keyes? Does that make you a hypocrite, or what?

No, I'm MOCKING you and him for your duplicity! And you both deserve it.

542 posted on 08/17/2004 9:37:13 PM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: Torie
It's the ONLY tactic I can use,when I try to change minds.*sigh*

But yes,the GOP in Ill, is just waiting for someone to pull the plug and Alan is doing just that and more.

543 posted on 08/17/2004 9:37:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: blanknoone

I tell you what, smartass: you run into me in real-life some time, and I'll explain it to you, real-personal. ;-)


544 posted on 08/17/2004 9:37:46 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: sinkspur
I think seriously reparations aren't much an issue with us but is an issue with certain people who have been led by race-baiters like Sharpton. I don't think Keyes can go into the inner city and just tell them they'll have to give up the issue just like that. I think he has to acknowledge it is an issue with some of the people whose attention he has to grab. That's one reason Republicans have been losing the black vote --- they let the liberals define all the issues.

Now if Obama decides to leave the reparations issues alone --- and I don't see how he's got a choice, the whole thing can be dropped.

545 posted on 08/17/2004 9:38:47 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
I doubt it --- reparations was their issue --- and now Keyes came along and changed it into some kind of income tax issue, a tax relief --- something they abhor, something they won't want to talk about. And Keyes brought up reparations before Obama had a chance to bring it up.

It actually might work to his benefit by causing the issue to be discussed in the Black community and FORCING Obama to confront it and state unequivocally where he stands on it. And it's a lose-lose for Obama. If he says he's for it, well that takes some of his lustre off right there among the general public. If he says he's against it, the Black community might take a second look at this race.....

It may actually turn out to be a brilliant ploy if his intention is to garner media attention (otherwise, they'd ignore him) and force Obama to take some ugly stands. If only those on our side weren't so eager to see Dr. Keyes crash and burn.
546 posted on 08/17/2004 9:39:32 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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To: bayourod
I'm surprised y'all aren't demanding that Keyes call for the immediate sealing of the borders and imprisonment of all out of status non-citizens.

FGS, don't give them any ideas.

For all we know -- and, of course, seeing as how he's changing his "values" the further he gets into this campaign -- tomorrow may be "Call for Open Borders" Day!

547 posted on 08/17/2004 9:39:39 PM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: sinkspur
So, in your world the ends justify the means. As long as we can overturn Roe V. Wade, any other injustice we have to suffer in pursuit of that is perfectly fine with you.

When it comes to the unborn? Absolutely.

I submit that this is your version of the "F" word to those who disagree with you.

And it is beneath you.

You're right. I apologize.

548 posted on 08/17/2004 9:39:50 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Live Strong)
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To: FITZ
Someone deep in the dank interior of the DNC is laughing his ass off over this

I doubt it --- reparations was their issue --- and now Keyes came along and changed it into some kind of income tax issue, a tax relief --- something they abhor, something they won't want to talk about. And Keyes brought up reparations before Obama had a chance to bring it up.

Don't bet the farm on that.

More likely, they'll shout from the housetops that "even arch-conservative Alan Keyes supports 'reparations'!"

Remember who we're talking about. These are the people who live, breathe, and spin... spin!

549 posted on 08/17/2004 9:40:38 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Antoninus

And YOU,who lives in Jersey,can't vote for him either!


550 posted on 08/17/2004 9:42:43 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: All

For giggles:

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=realpolitik


551 posted on 08/17/2004 9:43:11 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Howlin

Maybe "reparations" is to Keyes what "amnesty" is to Bush?


552 posted on 08/17/2004 9:43:13 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Nope,he is NOT all that principled at all.


553 posted on 08/17/2004 9:43:56 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Don Joe
I'll explain it to you, real-personal.

I look forward to it. I'll meet you anytime anywhere between NYC and Philly. Other locations will have to be arranged. Where are you?

554 posted on 08/17/2004 9:44:15 PM PDT by blanknoone (Everything is impossible to those who refuse to try.)
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To: Antoninus; sinkspur

yes.
race based tax cuts are a no go for MOST real conservatives.
I don't care how pro life he claims to be about babies... if he steals the life from one group in the form of dollars and gives it to others via tax exemptions...

It clearly manifests a lack of respect for human life. What the hey, it's only 'whitey's' life's blood, in paper format...

you keyesters are amazing.
this idea is racist and wrong.
it shows a lack of respect for life, human life, and particularly the lifetime of the NON blacks who he wants to foot the bill for his race based tax plan.


555 posted on 08/17/2004 9:44:40 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: nopardons
And YOU,who lives in Jersey,can't vote for him either!

Sure enough. But I would. In fact, I'd vote for him over just about every NJ politician I can think of save one. I wish he had come here to run for the Senate.
556 posted on 08/17/2004 9:44:58 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
it shows a lack of respect for life, human life, and particularly the lifetime of the NON blacks who he wants to foot the bill for his race based tax plan.

Yawn. Barak Obama thanks you for your support.
557 posted on 08/17/2004 9:46:10 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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To: B Knotts
They have an irrational hatred for him, IMO, because he is:
  1. Pro-life
  2. Conservative
  3. Black
  4. Independent
  5. Catholic
That's just how I see it.

Don't bother flaming me, "moderates," cause I'm outta here for the night, and perhaps for a while. I'm sickened by what goes on here at this "conservative" board.

Not real sure who you're firing at there with that burst, but speaking solely for myself, I'm a "social conservative" who's inlaws are all Catholic, and who's steadfastly supported Alan Keyes for years -- until tonight.

558 posted on 08/17/2004 9:46:19 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: bayourod

Check this out:

http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/borderland/0817-story1.shtml

FBI looks for possible terrorists along the border.

A Saudi terrorist suspect might be making his way to the U.S.-Mexico border amid groups of undocumented immigrants, officials with the FBI and the U.S. Embassy said.

---- Bush actually might be advised to do a little closing of the border with the number of Saudis coming over it lately. I'm not sure another attack on Americans on US soil will help his election along --- they're up to something and getting through very easily.


559 posted on 08/17/2004 9:46:48 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ

good point


560 posted on 08/17/2004 9:47:04 PM PDT by cyborg
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