Posted on 08/17/2004 9:04:17 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner
Since when is abortion not a real issue?
Missouri is a swing state that needs all the help it can to get Bush elected ... if Bush doesnt win Missouri, he is toast.
It seems that bashing a Republican candidate in another state with sarcasm, it might be that time is more productively spent helping Bush and Kit Bond in MO.
It's not one that's going to propell Keyes to victory. It's not even one that will bring Keyes within 10-15 points of Obama.
What makes you think Im not? Keyes is not in my state. He's going to lose. Any money diverted to Illinois is going down the tubes as part of Keyes mastubatory exercise.
As far as bashing another Republican, I would take that charge more seriously if you stood up for the so called RINOs. They are the best that you can expect in a liberal state and they do help the Republicans organize and control congress and thus the agenda.
yes I agree it looks pretty bad.
I should have packaged it differently as it wasn't my
own words, but just stuff I found others saying.
It does make me wonder however, how the MSM can tout Obama's
'black' credentials so often, when he's just as much white
as he is black.
I presume its his liberalness that tips the scale... I can
imagine if a half-white/half-black were a conservative, that
most blacks and the MSM would write him off as a 'white guy'
Oh, I didn't think it was YOUR impression or opinion; if I gave you that impression, I'm sorry.
There are plenty of republicans who are going to lose ... more will lose if you persist in forming a circular firing squad and try to prove us once again to be the 'stupid party'.
"I would take that charge more seriously if you stood up for the so called RINOs. They are the best that you can expect in a liberal state"
oh, not that myth again ... excuse me, but I lived in Illinois ... compare how horribly RINO lynn martin did, versus the 'unwinnable' more conservative Peter Fitzgerald in 1998. RINOs have systematically destroyed the Republican party in several states (New Jersey, Cali, ...), and one of them is Illinois when they put a corrupt RINO up as Guv... he has systematically decimated the Republican party. Sometimes conservative Reaganite principles is good politics.
and btw, I am standing up to the idiots who say that they wont vote for Bush, or wont vote for Spectre. But I get no help at all from the RINO-hugging moderates who'd rather split the party with division than unite for ALL our candidates ... *you* would be a hypocrite to demand we support RINOs even when they are imperfect candidates who are wrong/disagreeable on some issues then spurn the energetic Keyes candidacy.
Take yo' Momma's advice on this race and on Keyes: "If you can't anything nice, don't say anything at all."
Lead, follow or get out of the way.
"I presume its his liberalness that tips the scale... I can
imagine if a half-white/half-black were a conservative, that
most blacks and the MSM would write him off as a 'white guy'"
That has Rod Paige/ Michael Powell written all over it. :-)
Abortion and values issues will get Keyes 5,000 precinct block walkers. Abortion will explain to Illinois voters how out-to-lunch Obama is on all the whole values issues. Obama is no moderate.
And abortion is a matter of principle that explains Keyes as a man of principles. 70% of Americans agree that we should protect unborn human life, it's a winning principle. And Keyes has more than 1 issue. Quit misunderestimating Keyes ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1193693/posts
PS. okay smartypants - the 3 conservative issues better than aborion that will win Keyes the Senate race are: ... ???
Highly insulting tagline? Oh, please! It's a joke.
I was so sure that we were going to see change on the domestic front having control of 2 branches of government. Other than fighting the war, Bush has been a dismal failure over all. Forget about Republican pork. He won't even veto Democrat pork. He generates his own brand of pork. I could go down a long laundry list of things he has done wrong. But I won't because I'll bet you could cite them on your own without my help.
Here's something for you to consider. Remember how the Repubs fought Clinton tooth and nail during his entire administration? Even when they were still a minority...Phil Gram "..over my cold dead body.." regarding HillaryCare '93? I don't see that kind of behavior from them anymore except for a few conservatives like Tancredo. They see a Bush Administration as an opportunity to bring bacon home to there districts.
Having said that, I don't look forward to a Kerry presidency but I don't look forward to another 4 years of the same-o-same-o either.
Only on partial birth abortion. More like 35-40% support Keyes position on abortion. That is not a winning principle considering that those that are anti-abortion are already going to vote Republican, unless they were going to sit on their asses like they usually do.
How about 1) making the tax cuts permanent, 2) supporting Bush in his desire to appoint strict constructionists judges to the courts, and 3)doing what is necessary to win the war on terror.
If those arent enough, you could add in improving education in the state (e.g., vouchers anyone?) or even a constitutional ammendment to ban gay marriage. More than 70% of us in the next state over supported a ban on gay marriage and more than half of those voting were Dems because of a hotley contested Dem Gubernatorial primary.
Of course, Osama Bin Keyes picks as his top two issues abortion (which is not going to persuade anyone to change their vote)and reparations for blacks (which will persuade Illinois Republicans that they have committed suicide and just dont know it yet).
Obama is not a muslim.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/falsani/cst-nws-spirit05.html
How about 1) making the tax cuts permanent, 2) supporting Bush in his desire to appoint strict constructionists judges to the courts, and 3)doing what is necessary to win the war on terror."
Keyes has publicly supported all 3.
"If those arent enough, you could add in improving education in the state (e.g., vouchers anyone?) or even a constitutional ammendment to ban gay marriage."
And he supports those issues publicly and eloquently.
Keyes would be well-served with a 'values, economy, security' campaign... and so far he hasnt disappointed on that imho.
Dont fall for the media spin that tries to paint the most negative light on conservatives, including him.
Then perhaps he should learn to keep his mouth shut and avoid the traps set by the media. He seems to openly enjoy stepping into every trap they set so he can listen to himself pontificate whether anyone else is listening or not. Real politicians learn how to take the press questions and give them the answer they want, rather than making the soundbyte of the day abortion,abortion, abortion or worse yet reparations. That is not what he shoudl be talking about if he wants to win. That is why I and many others dont think he has any desire to win, he just wants to enjoy being the candidate again.
Im sure that there are other things to be done to tweak it more but it sounds like an interesting Idea..
Yea in order for Bush to endore you you have to be a liberal republican whos pro-abort and from PA..
I bet if Obamma or Jesse Jackson had come up with the same idea, you wouldnt be saying that. Why should I pay more taxes because of something that happened before my grandparents came here. Bull. If that is conservative we might as well had all voted for McGovern back in 72.
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