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Keyes has plans for reparations
Chicago Tribune ^ | 8/17/04 | Allison Benedikt and David Mendell

Posted on 08/17/2004 5:58:48 AM PDT by Aquinasfan

One day after their first meeting, U.S. Senate hopefuls Barack Obama and Alan Keyes were back on the campaign trail again Monday.

Speaking at a news conference at the Hotel InterContinental in Chicago, Republican Keyes added to his now familiar talking points his stance on slavery reparations.

Prompted by a reporter's question, Keyes gave a brief tutorial on Roman history and said that in regard to reparations for slavery, the U.S. should do what the Romans did: "When a city had been devastated [in the Roman empire], for a certain length of time--a generation or two--they exempted the damaged city from taxation."

Keyes proposed that for a generation or two, African-Americans of slave heritage should be exempted from federal taxes--federal because slavery "was an egregious failure on the part of the federal establishment." In calling for the tax relief, Keyes appeared to be reaching out to capture the black vote, something that may prove difficult to do, particularly after his unwelcome reception at the Bud Billiken Day Parade Saturday...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
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To: JustPiper
One take into consideration, the Times and Tribune in Chgo. are liberal and the slant they put on this is to be taken with a grain of salt.

I hope Alan isn't a I was against reparations before I was for reparations type of guy.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

661 posted on 08/17/2004 11:50:54 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Did I mention I'm peddling a book?)
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To: Admin Moderator

More than happy too oblige, and ask that enforcement be applied fairly across the board if I may. People that dish it and can't take it abound on this board.


662 posted on 08/17/2004 11:51:15 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: ApesForEvolution
People that dish it and can't take it abound on this board.

Is that a personal attack? Huh? Huh? Is it? is it? Huh? Huh? Don't make me come over there!

(tee hee)

663 posted on 08/17/2004 11:52:47 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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To: Soul Seeker

But woldn't this make Alan the 'lesser of two evils' still?

Unless you really want to lay down for (ObamaOsama) an infanticide loving communist who hides his Muhammadan faith in a quasi-Jesus that he made up...


664 posted on 08/17/2004 11:52:57 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Unbelievable.

Well, for someone who was just a politician, it would be absolutely unbelievable.

I've been hoping that he'll make some suggestions in the area of campaign finance reform. For example, what justification is there for our limiting what a candidate can do with monies contributed to his campaign? Why should a candidate be required to use such funds only for election purposes? From a strictly moral standpoint, shouldn't a candidate be permitted to use the money for anything he wishes?

I'm sort of hoping that Keyes will address this issue, too.

665 posted on 08/17/2004 11:53:33 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

It's pretty sad when Dr. Alan Keyes is no longer a great conservative candidate, but is now "The Lesser of Two Evils".

He's really fallen. Too bad, too.


666 posted on 08/17/2004 11:54:29 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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To: Carolinamom

I agree with you, but african americans have had a unique situation in the USA. I am not categorically against slave reparations, if it's approached in a wise way.

This plan is a great political maneuver - it is (rightfully) limited to descendants of slaves (not all black americans), and the benefit is as great as the work output the person creates.

This also puts the dems in a bind.


667 posted on 08/17/2004 11:55:53 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: JustPiper
You have FReepmail.
668 posted on 08/17/2004 11:56:31 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: TigersEye
So, you think Michelle Malkin is a leftist?

ALAN KEYES IS MAKING A MESS
By Michelle Malkin   ·   August 17, 2004 09:29 AM

GOP U.S. Senate candidate Alan Keyes (formerly host of MSNBC's "Alan Keyes is Making Sense") announced yesterday that he now supports slavery reparations. The Chicago Tribune (registration required) reports:

Speaking at a news conference at the Hotel InterContinental in Chicago, Republican Keyes added to his now familiar talking points his stance on slavery reparations.

Prompted by a reporter's question, Keyes gave a brief tutorial on Roman history and said that in regard to reparations for slavery, the U.S. should do what the Romans did: "When a city had been devastated [in the Roman empire], for a certain length of time--a generation or two--they exempted the damaged city from taxation."

Keyes proposed that for a generation or two, African-Americans of slave heritage should be exempted from federal taxes--federal because slavery "was an egregious failure on the part of the federal establishment." In calling for the tax relief, Keyes appeared to be reaching out to capture the black vote, something that may prove difficult to do, particularly after his unwelcome reception at the Bud Billiken Day Parade Saturday.

The former ambassador said his plan would give African-Americans "a competitive edge in the labor market," because those exempted would be cheaper to hire than federal tax-paying employees and would "compensate for all those years when your labor was being exploited..."

Two years ago on his MSNBC show, Keyes ridiculed this very idea. Responding to his guest Walter Fauntroy's call for reparations, Keyes said:

You want to tell me that what they suffered can actually be repaired with money? You're going to do the same thing those slaveholders did, put a money price on something that can't possibly be quanitified in that way.

The entire transcript is here.

669 posted on 08/17/2004 11:56:32 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Scenic Sounds
I'm sort of hoping that Keyes will address this issue, too.

I'm thinking he already did... in a subtle, yet probably unethical sort of way... ;0)

670 posted on 08/17/2004 11:56:35 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Only if you take it personally...lol.


671 posted on 08/17/2004 11:57:00 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: ApesForEvolution

The money spent was not in repatations for slavery, but in social programs to address bigotry, discrimination, inadequate education, etc.

This niche solution is a good one - limited only to descendants of slaves (which is categorically not all african americans), and buts the dems in a political bind. I like it.


672 posted on 08/17/2004 11:57:52 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

What specifically am I ignoring in the USC with this reparations plan? You lost me - maybe I called in sick that day in law school.

There is nothing at all unconstitutional about this plan.

There is nothing scary about it, 'dude.'


673 posted on 08/17/2004 11:59:07 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY
Let the money for reparations come out of only the pockets of the descendants of slave owners.
674 posted on 08/17/2004 11:59:22 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Yes, when we find the perfect one (Conservative person that is willing to suffer so many fools), I'm sure many around here will rush to go and crucify him, after a sound whipping...the enemy of the Conservatives deep down is the anti-Christ spirit in this world, so nothing surprises me.


675 posted on 08/17/2004 11:59:41 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: HitmanNY

So, by what constitutional reasoning do you consider it allowable for the government to decide which classes of people do or do not have to pay any income tax?

Thanks in advance.


676 posted on 08/17/2004 11:59:44 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

I will, only after you explain yourself.


677 posted on 08/17/2004 11:59:51 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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678 posted on 08/17/2004 12:00:16 PM PDT by JustPiper (~ It can be good news when there is no terror threat to report ~)
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To: HitmanNY
it is (rightfully) limited to descendants of slaves (not all black americans),

Are the descendants of slaves worse off than the overall black population?

679 posted on 08/17/2004 12:01:02 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: HitmanNY

In order for something like this to become law, there must be some constitutional basis for the legality of the plan - where is it? That is my question.


680 posted on 08/17/2004 12:01:14 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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