FReeper Canteen ~ Part VI of War in Ancient India ~ August 17, 2004

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Part VI: War in Ancient India

Artillery - India Taught Europe

Artillery was introduced into Europe by the Roma (Gyspsies), who were none else than the Jats and Rajputs of India.

This has been revealed in a study by a reputed linguist, Weer Rajendra Rishi, after an extensive tour of Roma camps in Europe.

He explains that the Romas, who are the Gypsies of Europe, also taught the use of artillery to Europeans. These Roma belonged to the Jat and Rajput clans who left India during the invasions by Mohamud Ghaznavi and Mohammad Ghori between the 10^th and 12^th centuries of the Christian era.

He says the use of artillery was known in Asia, notably in India, from time immemorial, while it was introduced to the Europeans much later.

Mr. Rishi reveals that the Roma had helped different countries of Europe in making artillery. “Evidence of this is given as early as 1496 by a mandate of that date granted by Wadislas, King of Hungary, wherein it is said that Thomas Polgar, chief of 25 tents of wandering Gypsies had, with his people, made at Funfkirchen musket-balls and other ammunition for Bishop Sigismond. “In 1546 when the English were holding Boulogne against the French the latter took the help of two experienced Romas of Hungary to make great number of cannons of greater caliber than earlier guns. The Hungarian Roma of the 16^th century possessed fuller knowledge of fabricating artillery than the races of Western Europe.

There were also records that the Roma were employed as soldiers by some countries of Europe. Dr. W. R. Rishi, is the author of the book, Roma - The Panjabi Emigrants in Europe, Central and Middle Asia, the USSR, and the Americas - published 1976. Mr. Rishi is a well-known linguist of India and was awarded the honour of 'Padmashri' by the President of India in 1970 for his contributions in the field of linguistics. He is also the Founder Director of the Indian Institute of Romani Studies.

(source: Diamonds, Mechanism, Weapons of War, Yoga Sutras - By G. R. Josyer. p. 179-182).

Indian Armour

To conclude with the words of Sir George Birdwood:

" For a variety, extent, and gorgeousness, and ethnological and artistic value, no such collection of Indian arms exists in this country (England) as that belonging to the Prince of Wales. It represents the armorer's art in every province of India, from the rude spear of the savage Nicobar islanders to the costly damascened, sculptured, and jewelled swords, and shields, spears, daggers, and match-locks of Kashmir, Kutch and Vizianagaram. The most striking object in the collection is a suit of armor made entirely of the horny scales of the Indian armadillo, or pangolin, encrusted with gold, and turquoise, and garnets."

(source: The Industrial Arts of India pp. 171-2).

Next Tuesday, Part VII of War in Ancient India

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1 posted on 08/16/2004 7:59:43 PM PDT by LaDivaLoca

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Have a wonderful day!

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2 posted on 08/16/2004 8:00:46 PM PDT by LaDivaLoca (There can be no triumph w/o loss, no victory w/o suffering, no freedom w/o sacrifice. THANK U TROOPS)

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4 posted on 08/16/2004 8:03:19 PM PDT by Soaring Feather

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5 posted on 08/16/2004 8:03:37 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops : Present, Past and Future)

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6 posted on 08/16/2004 8:05:30 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (LaDivaLoca Rocks)

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8 posted on 08/16/2004 8:07:54 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops : Present, Past and Future)

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9 posted on 08/16/2004 8:09:59 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops : Present, Past and Future)

10 posted on 08/16/2004 8:12:06 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)

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11 posted on 08/16/2004 8:14:07 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (It's begining to look a lot like Christmas! Is this an Irving Berlin tune?)

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12 posted on 08/16/2004 8:24:54 PM PDT by AZamericonnie

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13 posted on 08/16/2004 8:31:53 PM PDT by Soaring Feather

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My heart is heavy for RaceBannon this evening.
Oh my, prayers for Race and the family.

14 posted on 08/16/2004 8:33:53 PM PDT by Soaring Feather

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Good Evening Canteen FReepers! Just checking in for the night. Thanks for the history lesson Diva.

15 posted on 08/16/2004 8:37:12 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)

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16 posted on 08/16/2004 8:38:34 PM PDT by Soaring Feather

WOO HOO how it going darkwing. You dangerous?

Can't get too dangerous. Have to go to bed and get ready for PT in the morning

17 posted on 08/16/2004 8:43:12 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)

I guess the reason I've never been dangerous, and only obnoxious, is because the former requires lots of PT. I don't have to train for the latter. ;)

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20 posted on 08/16/2004 10:27:37 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)

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