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To: D Edmund Joaquin

I choose not to comment on prophecies that have supposedly come to fruition at the right time, when they have happened in the past.

Because I can say just about anything I want, I can put in a book that The shuttle will be destroyed and make it look like a prophecy from the past, and make all the conditions of that prophecy look like I called them out before the event, and it just happened to happen at the right time.

But, you take it on faith that someone did not do that to the book of Jeremiah, you take it on faith, that God indeed told him about the future and the circumstances relating to Jesus' coming.


503 posted on 08/17/2004 5:41:41 PM PDT by Jaguar1942
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To: Jaguar1942

Well you can ask the Jews when they first received the book. I don't believe any of them will say they rewrote it to coincide with Jesus' coming.


509 posted on 08/17/2004 5:48:43 PM PDT by D Edmund Joaquin
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To: Jaguar1942
Because I can say just about anything I want, I can put in a book that The shuttle will be destroyed and make it look like a prophecy from the past, and make all the conditions of that prophecy look like I called them out before the event, and it just happened to happen at the right time.

Perhaps you might want to consider a study of the Old Testament from a different perspective.

 You can dismiss what some consider to be the tenets of eschatology and that is perfectly reasonable. There is more to the Bible than the words of Jeremiah, but I suspect that there is not much more to you as you seem to have already made up your mind concerning certain things.

The tabernacle in the wilderness.

 

The Tabernacle was a structure built by the children of Israel under the supervision of Moses, around 1450 B.C. The layout of the Tabernacle and the materials of its construction were specified in great detail to Moses by God at Mount Sinai, a few weeks after the children of Israel had left hundreds of years of slavery in Egypt (the Exodus). The Tabernacle was a portable construction, made by wise, skilful workmen and transported by one tribe (the Levites) through the 40 years in the desert wilderness and on into the land of Canaan.

The study of the tabernacle is infinitely cool, and I will not pretend that I have read about it all. I have read enough to have been convinced that something extraordinary is involved in this subject.

Indeed there are many critics out there concerning all of the book writers including Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel, and most especially Daniel. The fact is that prophecy is what the Bible is inherently about. Every page, and indeed every note in the Bible is prophetic.

I do not ordinarily comment about such things, but I saw your particular post, and you seemed to invite a response to you because of your arrogant demeanor.

671 posted on 08/18/2004 4:36:17 PM PDT by Radix (Our regularly scheduled Tag Line has been pre-empted by a poor substitute.)
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To: Jaguar1942
But, you take it on faith that someone did not do that to the book of Jeremiah, you take it on faith, that God indeed told him about the future and the circumstances relating to Jesus' coming.

And Plato was really Santa Claus.

The Dead sea Scrolls, dated Before Christ, have been compared to the modern available transcripts and have proven to be accurate beyond that which is statistically probable. This goes to the meticulousness of the scribes commissioned to handle the manuscripts and to the Holy Spirit's preservation of the Word of God.

The evidence speaks this information, but those who wish to cast it off, do so recklessly.

The Bible is an integrated message system from an all knowing Creator to His created souls. 2000 years of the brightest minds (often with very sinful lives) have tried to tear down the Bible. (Many were transformed into Godly people of character in the process because of their newfound belief in Jesus Christ). The testimonials are endless, and should become part of anyones pursuit of truth.

The Bible is 66 books written by 40 authors with a seamless integrity that defies anything short of omnipotence. The puzzle that is the Bible has so many layers that a full concerted effort by mankind for 4000 years can only begin to plumb Scriptures depths. (Compare the # commentaries on the Holy Bible to any other religious or nonreligious body of work, a staggering disparity).

There are prophecies that lay out the history of mankind integrated throughout the entirety of the text, hundreds and often thousands of years in advance. Link 1 The Jews will be scattered throughout the world then God will regather them back into the land in the end times beyond any precedent in human history. Those people will then resurrect the dead language of Hebrew, making it the national language. Link 2

I have many more non-faith related reasons. In hindsight, Christians all testify to the realization that the Holy Spirit is the one who reveals the true nature of what Jesus Christ did for us on and after the cross. However, the Bible teaches us to reason with others regarding Scripture, because we serve a reasonable God who did not remain nebulous off in space, but became a human like us so that we could completely relate to Him.

God wants a relationship with us, and He reestablished fellowship with us through the Cross for those that believe. Fellowship with God is our purpose in life! There is nothing better.

827 posted on 08/19/2004 2:04:28 PM PDT by bondserv (Alignment is critical! †)
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