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To: RightWingNilla; Jaguar1942; Right Wing Professor; RadioAstronomer
I think the problem now is we're getting quite close to the point where science could provide a consistent account of everything, from the moment of creation to the present day. Physics will tell us how it all began, biology will fill in the few remaining gaps in evolution, chemistry will tell us how life first arose, and neuroscience will provide a predictive model for human thought and behavior. Signs of God's presence in the Universe, miracles and so on, will be more and more discredited.

Of course I'm sure you realize that the strength of you argument rests' on your belief - your faith if you will - that all the above will happen in it's due course.

The obvious problem or question is; what do we do with the one life that we have? I for one am not a gambler - not that I always have to have the "sure thing" - but I want the odds in my favor. You and the rest of the "pro-evo's" want "proof-positive" - "kilroy was here" - before you accept the existence or even the possibility of a creator.

However, with your background, you know that the Bible decrees that "the righteous will live by faith - not by works". Thus, you should know you're not going to find "kilroy was here".

Blind Faith! you say. Perhaps. Your gospel states "in the beginning, there was nothing, then it exploded". You've got to admit it takes a lot of faith to believe that (somehow we got something from NOTHING. We don't understand it now, but ONE DAY the sky will open and the answer will come). And if your faith - belief - whatever you want to call it, brings you peace in this life - I personally don't have issues with it. I will just continue to hold onto "..in the beginning, God...".

And you know - maybe man will figure it all out and science will have an answer for the rational as well as the irrational. But keep in mind too that the Bible states "there is a way that seems right to a man - but the end is death".

I don't know - the Bible could be a bunch of B.S. But again, I'm not a gambler.

Regards,

467 posted on 08/17/2004 4:07:58 PM PDT by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: jonno

What the heck are you talking about?

90% of christians, if not more understand that evolution is the best scientific theory, they also understand that creationism is a religious theory.

They also have NO problem with believing both.

This is the way science sees it, this is the way religion sees it.

They are able to separate the 2 and look at it from different perspectives.

Why are you creationists here unable or unwilling to do that? This is Science, Evolution, biology, etc and this is religion, Creationism, flood, etc.

They are different, one is based on conclusions based on facts, the other is faith based, with conclusions based on written words in a book.

Why is it so hard for you to separate the 2.

EVERY post that an "evolutionist" makes is based on science, not faith, every post by a creationist is based on faith. The 2 are NOT compatible.

Why the creationist must have us say that creationism or ID is scientific, when it most definitely is not, and why your faith for some reason must be backed up via science is beyond me as well.

Care to explain?


471 posted on 08/17/2004 4:19:14 PM PDT by Jaguar1942
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To: jonno
Your gospel states "in the beginning, there was nothing, then it exploded".

It ain't gospel. It's the best current theory. And 'there was nothing, then it exploded', is just a wee bit of a simplification.

591 posted on 08/18/2004 8:02:48 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor (www.swiftvets.com)
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