[Murtyo]

old, but interesting, the part about the Islamic world catching up Technologically seems remote, for now at least.

[swilhelm73]

One glaring problem here...the latter Mongol hordes *were* Muslims.

Most especially one can look at Tamerlane who could fairly be called a fanatical Islamic "crusader".

[Avenger]

"The Mongols were purely destructive; they were known for slaughtering whole cities and making huge pyramids of severed heads. Such savagery was alien to the Muslims. Where they conquered, daily life usually went on much as before and culture thrived."

Nonsense. Mohammed and his followers were known to take the heads of defeated enemies from time to time (and we see the same today) and then split the wives and daughters of their vanquished foes among themsevles.

[USMMA_83]

Technology as far the the murder cult is concerned is the Nuclear Bomb, and a Chinese delivery system. That's it.

[lainde]

Very interetsing article...Thanks for posting!

[Robert_Paulson2]

Where they conquered, daily life usually went on much as before and culture thrived. In many respects the Muslim world was far more civilized than Christian Europe for centuries.

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written by a catholic scholar?
what a moron.

[xJones]

Taking a longer view, he saw Islam, though inferior in material power, as having a great advantage: its religious faith was still strong, while the West was losing its religion and consequently its morale. He thought it entirely possible that Islam would catch up technologically, while he doubted that the West would undergo a spiritual revival.

The most violent Muslims are the Saudi Wahhabis and they are far from inferior in material power. They've made trillions of dollars off oil in an historically short time.. And they, like every other Muslim OPEC country, have managed to squander it all in vain endeavors.

Not one Muslim OPEC country has established a single credible university, they send their young to Western countries for higher education. No Muslim country has a single world-class medical center, even the vastly wealthy Saudis princes come to Western hospitals. There appears to be no interest in any technological field besides making Iranian nuclear bombs to blast Israel, and no attempt at all in the medical sciences.

I see no proof at all that Islam can catch up technologically; for example, the Iranians buy Western technology to try to make those fearsome bombs, and the Muslim OPEC countries would lose their oil producing capacities without Western help.

The West has weakened spiritually, Europe's pretty bad and Britain has their national church going pro-gay. But there is hope. There are sparks of evangelicals across Europe and Britain and other Western spawned countries. Belloc was pro-Arab and a pessimist toward Western Christianity. I wouldn't call him a prophet, he was more like a misanthrope.

[Bonaparte]

Islam is "libertarian"? What is Sobran smoking?

[rmlew]

Sobran is just a Muslim apologist. He hates the modern west and Jews. Thus it is easy for him to make common cause with Islamists.
Salvery was and is common among Muslims. Heck, Mohammed was a brigand, pedophile, and slaver.
Either Belloc was ignorant of this (I doubt it) or Joe is lying.

[fiddlerselbow]

Mohammedan terror bomb massacre in India
Times of India ^ | 8-15-04 | India Times

NEW DELHI: A string of bomb blasts in Assam, a grenade attack and a militant-sponsored shutdown in Jammu and Kashmir marred Independence Day celebrations on Sunday.

At least 13 people, including six children, were killed and 21 injured when a powerful bomb ripped through a college ground in Assam's Dhemaji town, bordering Arunachal Pradesh.

The explosive, that blew up at around 9.45 am soon after the national flag was unfurled, was planted at the entrance of the ground.

A witness said that most of the bodies of the children were burnt beyond recognition. The dead included seven women who had come to watch the children participate in the march-past.

"The bomb exploded under the feet of the children. There is blood and human flesh all over the ground," said school teacher Jiban Saikia
Excerpted - click for full article ^

[Dumb_Ox]

Belloc's chapter on Islam from The Great Heresies

[dennisw]

btttttttt

[Old Professer]

If they win, it will be because we've become too soft.

[RedSunBeer]

I am not against any group or religion mentioned here but the prophecy mentioned in the article is quite accurate.

Muslims live all over the world including countries that are technology advanced. They have knowledge of software, nuclear technology, engineering, medicine, chemicals and warfare. They could always decide to support a jihad against the west and some of them already do. For example the nuclear secrets leaked out by a top Pakistani scientist to groups with anti west sentiments.

Muslims do come together if they believe that muslims are being attacked by non Muslims. The Israelis(west supported)/Palestinians(muslim supported) conflict has almost become a west versus Islam conflict. This is simply because muslims don't see this as a regional or political war but as a attack on muslims by non muslims. If the majority of the palestinians had not been muslims they wouldnt have made such a fuss.

Even middle class, educated and mild mannered muslims feel that the west is out to subdue or destroy Islam. If princess Diana had married Dodi it would have been considered a great victory for Islam as that would have meant that her sons (one of whom might become king of England) could have been influenced by muslims.

And let us face facts. Christianity is dying out in the west. I mean how many people in the west are willing to give up everything and serve Christ. What they want is booze, sex and money (i don't condemn this either it is for them to choose). Christianity is divided into many groups (competing with each other) and even racially. Most western people believe(d) that Christianity is a white man's religion. They presume Jesus to have been a white man, even though he was born in the middle east and was of Jewish origins. The western thinking is that Jews are white people even though their early ancestors lived mostly in Africa and the middle east. This "white man's religion" has weakened Christians because you now have white churches and colored churches besides the various groups. Even some african and Asian Christians believe Christianity to be the white man's religion and accept the white man's version of Christianity. So they have the Christmas tree, Santa Claus, Christmas gifts and easter eggs and bunnys. St.Valentine's feast has become synonymous with romance and sex as versus Christian love and service. The religious values of these holy days are ignored and considered boring.

Muslims fortunately, don't suffer such stupidity. Even the main groups i.e. the Sunni's and Shia's come together to defend Islam. Muslims do have deep divisions among themselves but not when it comes to protecting their faith. And Muslim majority countries do not actively support secularism and restrict or ban other religions from being practiced.

And as far as war goes if a bunch a horse riding afghans could defeat the advanced soviets, or a few Vietnamese with bicycles could kick out the French and Americans with their fighter planes and battleships then what could a billion plus Muslims do if they rise up together. Or is the west gonna open concentration camps and seek support from the far east. If christainity has to survive anywhere in this world it has to get back to the basics - faith, love and service.