Posted on 08/15/2004 9:59:17 PM PDT by Coleus
When The Unborn Doesn't Go Quietly To His Execution
Michael Reagan Show
2-28-98 Bob Edwards
It was a relatively calm day in my hospital's Neonatal Intensive Care Unit. I and two other nurses were trying to have a conversation amid the customary sounds of ventilators and heart monitors. I was in mid-sentence when the shrill ring of the red emergency phone halted everything. "Come fast," the voice said urgently, "We need a neonatal nurse here STAT!" (that's immediately). Fear gripped my heart as I ran into the delivery room, but instantly I knew the situation was critical, and I was now prepared for what I was about to experience. "What's happened here?" I asked. "It's an oops abortion, and now it's your problem!" responded one of the nurses. For us, an 'oops abortion' meant that the fetus had survived the abortion procedure.
A pediatrician had also been called to the scene. He ran by me with the fetus, (now called a baby), in his hand and yelled in my direction. I followed him into the resuscitation room adjoining the delivery room.
I looked into the bed of the warmer as I grabbed equipment. There lay a baby boy...... a very, very tiny baby boy. The doctor and I immediately made an attempt at intubation, that is, inserting a tube down the windpipe from the mouth or nose of the infant to the tip of the lungs to try to ventilate, expand and get oxygen into them. The doctor's efforts at intubation failed. All it did was further traumatize the baby. I glanced at the doctor and hesitantly asked, "Will you attempt intubation again?'
"It would be inhumane to attempt to intubate this poor little thing again. This infant will never survive." "Well", I said, "it is my job to ask." The doctor softened, "I'm sorry, Sharon, I'm just angry. The mother doesn't want the inconvenience of a baby, so she comes to the hospital so she can pay somebody to get rid of it -- all neat and tidy. Then the whole thing gets messed up when the little one has the audacity to survive."
"And then everybody takes it seriously, and they call the pediatrician, and I'm supposed to fix it, or get rid of it." With anger in his voice, he went on, "Some lawyers will fight for the right for the mother to do whatever she wants to with her body, but watch out for what they do when abortions aren't so neat and tidy!!! A failed homicide -- oops! Then all of a sudden everybody cares, and it's turned from a 'right' into a 'liability' that someone is blamed for!"
We looked at our pathetic little patient. He was lying in the fetal position in the wrong environment, trying to get air into underdeveloped lungs that could not do the job.
In a calmed voice, the doctor said, "Okay, Nurse, I'm going back to my office. Keep him comfortable and let me know when it's over. I'm sorry about this. Call me if you need me. I know this is a hard one. If it helps, please know it is tough for me too."
I watched the doctor retreat and then glanced back at the infant before me. He was gasping for air. 'Lord, help!', I prayed. Almost instinctively, I measured the baby's vital signs. His temperature was dangerously low. I pushed the warmer settings as high as they would go. His heart rate was about 180 - 200 beats per minute. I could count the beats by watching his little chest pulsate.
I settled down a bit and began to focus on this tiny little person. He had no name, so I gave him one. Suddenly, I found myself speaking to the baby. "Tiny Tim, who are you? I'm sorry you weren't wanted. It's not your fault."
I placed my little finger in his hand, and he grasped it. As I watched him closely, I marveled that all the minute parts of a beautiful baby were present and functioning in spite of this onslaught. I touched his toes and discovered that this premature baby was ticklish! He had a long torso and long legs, and I wondered if he would have become a basketball player. Perhaps he would have been a teacher or maybe a doctor.
Emotions swept over me as I thought of my friends who had been waiting and praying for years for a baby to adopt. I spoke aloud again to this miniature baby. "They would have given you a loving and happy home. Why would people destroy you before ever considering adoption? Ignorance isn't bliss, is it, Tiny Tim?"
So little Tim put his thumb into his mouth and sucked. I hoped that gave him comfort. I said, "I'm sorry, Tim. There are people who would risk their lives for a whale or an owl, but they wouldn't even blink an eye about what is happening to you." Tiny Tim gasped, and his little chest heaved as if a truck were sitting on it. With my stethoscope, I listened to his tiny, pounding heart. It seemed easier to focus on his physiology rather than on this tiny baby's humanity.
And then he wet...and my mind took off again. Here was Tiny Tim with a whole set of kidneys, a bladder and connecting tubes that functioned with a very complex system of chemistry. His plumbing was all working! I turned the overhead light up and little Tim turned away from it. In spite of eyelids that were still fused together, he wanted to protect his precious little eyes. I thought about them. They would never see a sunset, a mother's smile or the wagging tail of a dog.
I took his temperature again. It was dropping. He was gasping for air and continued to fight for life. I stroked him gently and began to sing to him.
Another nurse walked in. "How's the mother?" I asked. "Oh she's fine. She's back in her room resting." The family said they don't want to see or hear about anything. They said, "Just take care of it." The nurse retreated with one last glance at the tiny patient. "For such a little person, he sure is putting up a big fight," she said.
So there I was with this tiny, tiny preemie who had survived an abortion. The doctor had left. The family had said, 'Just take care of it'. Sharon had found the toes ticklish, and she watched him suck his thumb. She had turned the heat lights up, and he had turned his head away from the bright light to protect his eyes. And now he was wetting...his plumbing worked too.
I looked at Tiny Tim and wondered if he knew that what he was fighting for so hard was life -- and I knew he was losing his fight. He was dying...and his family was not even interested. Their words tormented me, "Just take care of it!" No muss, no fuss.
Then Tiny Tim moved and caught hold of my little finger. I let him hang on. I did not want him to die without being touched and cared for. As I saw him struggle to breathe, I said, "It's okay, Tim. You can let go.........You can go back to God." His gasping started to slow down, but he still clung to my finger. I stroked him ever so slowly and watched him take his last breath.
"Goodbye," I whispered, "You did matter to someone."
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A few years later, the same Sharon Dunsmore became the manager of a psychiatric unit. One day, Kathy, a young, severely depressed woman, came to see Sharon following an unsuccessful suicide attempt. As Sharon interviewed her and heard her story, she told of an abortion she had received three years before and was having recurring nightmares. A baby was crying for help and kept calling her name. In her dreams, Kathy kept searching for the baby, but could never find him or her. She did not even know the sex of her baby.
As Kathy gave the name of the hospital and the names of the doctor, a disturbing realization dawned on Sharon -- Kathy was Tiny Tim's mother. But because of hospital regulations Sharon could not tell Kathy what she knew.
But time passed. Sharon was no longer a nurse or a therapist. Kathy was no longer a psychiatric patient. They ran into each other at a restaurant, where Sharon gently unfolded the story that had been hidden for so long. Tears flowed as she gave Kathy the gift of answers. Her baby had been touched and loved by a mother. He had been given a name. He didn't die alone. He was sent back to a loving God.
They held each other and wept. Sharon looked into Kathy's eyes and saw new strength and calm. There were scars, but she was beginning to heal. The nightmares were being put to rest.
Sharon still lives with the haunting impact of this experience. A CHOICE that was intended to be 'no big deal', turned out to be a very big deal for everyone.
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I was brought to tears by this story. In all my travels and experience in the Army, I have never witnessed anything like what Sharon Dunsmore did. I have seen people killed, I have seen the effects of war, and I have helped kill other human beings. It amazes me what human beings will do to each other. Still, in everything I have seen, I wonder how people can call 'Tiny Tim' just a piece of tissue, just a choice. We as a nation will answer for the infanticide that we practice. We as Christians will answer for what we have or have not done to stop this holocaust.
In Nazi Germany in the 1930's and 1940's the Christian Churches were well aware of what the Nazi's were doing to the Jews and other undesirables. In most cases the church chose to do nothing, reasoning, that they should let the state take care of earthly matters, while the church worried about saving the soul. The price for inaction, the destruction of Germany. Do not sit idly by while this country mortgages her soul through infanticide.
'Just take care of it.' How convenient to rationalize life by calling the baby 'it.' If you choose abortion, you choose stories like this! Unfortunately, we pay for our choices in life, Kathy paid a terrible price, as did Tiny Tim. But so did Sharon, the doctors, nurses and family involved. However, it is more than that, this nation is paying a price for treating our most helpless citizens as tissue. God says He knew us before we were born. He also says a man and a nation will reap what it sows.
Yours In Christ,
Bob Edwards
Sharon Dunsmore has Tiny Tim's story available in booklet form.
"Tiny Tim", PO Box 84, Smiths Creek, MI 48074-0084
Bible Reference: Psalms - 1:1-5, Psalm 4:6, Malachi 4:16, Psalm 119:105, Proverbs 2:12-22,
Proverbs 4:18-27
Needs Repeating, Posted 1, 2, 3,
I just got back and saw your post. It said it much better than I did. Thanks.
See the picture above? That is one of three former abortion rooms at the NATIONAL AMERICAN HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL in Baton Rouge, LA. It was open from 1986 1994. 30,000 children were aborted there. This was not the only abortion mill in the city. The doctor had this building built special to maximize his time and PROFITS.
Notice the kitchen sink with the garbage disposal. There were three ways for the doctor to dispose of the babies, an expensive biomedical incinerator, expensive biomedical waste pick-up (charge by pound) or a rather inexpensive garbage disposal. Every day Gods precious children were ground up in that disposal and flushed into the citys sewer system. Thing is this doctor of death did late term abortions, so an assisting demon had to literally cut up the bigger kids to feed down the disposal.
I have given tours of the place a few times. It is like walking in a nightmare. The suction machine in one room is still plugged in and it works when you turn it on for the visitors to see and hear. This place is much like an abandoned Nazi death camp. Its the only Memorial like it in the country. Its a testament to Americas (and humanity's) darkest potential.
Some time after the mill was closed down, the doctor of death aborted himself with a bullet through the head.
The men too feel anguish for years, I will for the rest of my live. See my post # 80.
Yes I read it.
As I understand it some men in your case find real peace by working in the Pro-Life movement. Please consider this if you are not involved already. There is much to be done but few who help.
Islamic Jihad | Planned Parenthood |
Tractorman doesnt shed tears very often but I could only read a few paragraphs.
I adopted two boys as infants and theyre both fine conservative Christian young men now.
He had no choice but to abort himself with a bullet through the head, his evil deeds attest to his lack of a heart.
My wife was 3 months early, 30 years ago in Mexico. She weighed 1.1 kilos, and barely survived. I and our 2 children are forever grateful that many doctors and nurses cared enough to keep trying, and that her parents never gave up.
G-d rest Tiny Tim's soul.
Tears here, too. I don't know what else to say.
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9
You have already acknowledged that you have sinned. All you need to do is accept the wonderful present of Christ's blood, shed for your sins and mine and everybody's. He wants to forgive you, and when you accept that forgiveness you'll begin to forgive yourself! Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. Freep-mail me if you need to talk!
You're right!
And in the 60's & 70's it got to it's loudest point, to change the law of the land!
You're right, I love it. (I will probably steal it on occasion for illustrative purposes)
Loved one of mine just read this (she had an abortion a long time ago at age 18) and just began sobbing. I hugged her and told us we were lied to back then...abortion doesn't just get rid of a blob of tissue and these women feel this pain forever.
May God help this country! We are in bad shape. May God help us to re elect Dubya, a prolife President..Why has this happened to our country?? This has me crying so hard.
To: Nonesuch
Nobody seems to be willing willing to acknowledge that women die from pregnancy -- who are we to force a woman to risk her life to carry her baby to term?
the average maternal death rate when a pregnancy is continued to birth is about 66 per million births. The death rate from continuing the pregnancy to birth is about 33 times higher than having an early abortion (under 9 weeks gestation). (cite)
(cite) You cite from a left-wing, secular humanist, pagan, Marxist, pro-homosexual organization, your facts are skewed and biased
I think women would do much better if the concentrate on what is really killing them: Heart disease, strokes, cancer, COPD, Diabetes, etc. and not worry about being pregnant. Incidentally pregnancy is beneficial to women and generally those women who have NO abortions and have their first child in their twenties, have the least chance of getting breast cancer.
500,00 thousand women die of Heart Disease and Cancer EACH YEAR, that pales in comparison to the 399 maternal deaths. I think women should be more focused on diet and weight control, exercise so they won't get such diseases as heart, lung, diabetes, hypertension, etc.
Maternal mortality
In 2001 a total of 399 women were reported to have died of maternal causes (tables 34 and 35), up 3 deaths from the 2000 total. As in previous years, the number of maternal deaths does not include all deaths occurring to pregnant women, but only those deaths reported on the death certificate that were assigned to causes related to or aggravated by pregnancy or pregnancy management (ICD10 codes A34, O00O95, and O98O99). Further, the number excludes deaths occurring more than 42 days after the termination of pregnancy and deaths of pregnant women due to external causes (unintentional injuries, homicides, and suicides) (7).
The maternal mortality rate for 2001 was 9.9 deaths per 100,000 live births. Black women have a substantially higher risk of maternal death than white women. The maternal mortality rate for black women was 24.7, 3.4 times the rate for white women (7.2 deaths per 100,000 live births).
Hispanic maternal mortalityThe maternal mortality rate for His-panic women was 9.5 deaths per 100,000 live births. As with other statistics involving Hispanic origin, these should be interpreted with caution because of inconsistencies between reporting Hispanic origin on death certificates and on censuses and surveys (see Technical Notes).
98 National Vital Statistics Reports, Vol. 52, No. 3, September 18, 2003 Table 34. Number of maternal deaths and maternal mortality rates for selected causes by race: United States, 2001
[Maternal causes are those assigned to categories A34,O00-O95,O98-O99 of the Tenth Revision, International Classification of Diseases, 1992. Rates per 100,000 live births in specified group; see Technical Notes]
Number Rate
All other All other Cause of death (Based on the Tenth Revision, International All All Classification of Diseases, 1992) races White Total Black races White Total Black
Maternal causes (A34,O00-O95,O98-O99) .............................................. |
399 |
228 |
171 |
150 |
9.9 |
7.2 |
20.2 |
24.7 |
Pregnancy with abortive outcome (O00-O07) ........................................... |
38 |
20 |
18 |
16 |
0.9 |
0.6 |
* |
* |
Ectopic pregnancy (O00) ....................................................................... |
23 |
11 |
12 |
10 |
0.6 |
* |
* |
* |
Spontaneous abortion (O03) .................................................................. |
7 |
5 |
2 |
2 |
* |
* |
* |
* |
Medical abortion (O04) ........................................................................... |
1 |
1 |
- |
- |
* |
* |
* |
* |
Other abortion (O05) .............................................................................. |
- |
- |
- |
- |
* |
* |
* |
* |
Other and unspecified pregnancy with abortive outcome |
||||||||
(O01-O02,O06-O07) ........................................................................... |
7 |
3 |
4 |
4 |
* |
* |
* |
* |
Other direct obstetric causes (A34,O10-O92) ........................................... 309 179 130 114 7.7 5.6 15.3 18.8 Eclampsia and pre-eclampsia (O11,O13-O16) ...................................... 72 43 29 26 1.8 1.4 3.4 4.3 Hemorrhage of pregnancy and childbirth and placenta previa (O20,O44-O46,O67,O72) .................................................................... 44 26 18 15 1.1 0.8 * * Complications predominantly related to the puerperium (A34,O85-O92) .................................................................................... 101 55 46 39 2.5 1.7 5.4 6.4 Obstetrical tetanus (A34) .................................................................... ----* * * *
Obstetric embolism (O88) ................................................................... |
69 |
39 |
30 |
24 |
1.7 |
1.2 |
3.5 |
4.0 |
Other complications predominantly related to the puerperium |
||||||||
(O85-O87,O89-O92) ....................................................................... |
32 |
16 |
16 |
15 |
0.8 |
* |
* |
* |
All other direct obstetric causes |
||||||||
(O10,O12,O21-O43,O47-O66,O68-O71,O73-O75) ............................ |
92 |
55 |
37 |
34 |
2.3 |
1.7 |
4.4 |
5.6 |
Obstetric death of unspecified cause (O95) .............................................. |
1 |
1 |
- |
- |
* |
* |
* |
* |
Indirect obstetric causes (O98-O99) ........................................................ |
51 |
28 |
23 |
20 |
1.3 |
0.9 |
2.7 |
3.3 |
Maternal causes more than 42 days after delivery or termination of pregnancy (O96-O97) ......................................................................... 17 7 10 8 * * * * Death from any obstetric cause occurring more than 42 days but less than one year after delivery (O96) ...................................................... 9 4 5 4 * * * * Death from sequelae of direct obstetric causes (O97) .......................... 8 3 5 4 * * * *
Cite your so-called skewed facts with a REAL WEBSITE, how about starting with the CDC, Page 98, notice in 2001 38 women DIED from an Abortion.
Second trimester abortions are rare
Second Trimesters are NOT rare and neither is partial birth abortion, get your facts straight.
Reducing the availability of abortions (by harassing, threatening, and murdering doctors and picketing, vandalizing and bombing clinics), and making abortions more difficult to obtain (through legal and extralegal means, causes the rate of late-term abortions to increase drastically -- this leads to an increase in the rate of maternal complications.
You sound like some kind of radical who is biased and misinformed making up stories and lies, ONE clinic in Alabama was bombed by the same guy who bombed the Olympics in Atlanta, He is a NUT, you make it sound like pro-lifers are doing this every day. I pass by abortion mills every day and don't see any picketing or protesters. Late term abortions are done every day 1,500 per yr. in one NJ mill alone. Abortions are the easiest to obtain in history, many mills are posted with guards, women are free to come and go as they please and they do where they account for 1.2 million abortions per year.
(through legal and extralegal means, causes the rate of late-term abortions to increase drastically -- this leads to an increase in the rate of maternal complications.
Legal? No law was passed by congress making abortion legal, the SCOTUS misinterpreted the 5th and 14th amendments to the Constitution which guarantee a right to life and equal protection under the law as do ALL 50 States. SCOTUS used the very vague 9th amendment using "privacy" as the issue.
Personally, I find it difficult if not impossible to justify the state intruding in the reproductive decisions of adults in either contraception or in the first few weeks after conception. Specifically, it is difficult to justify without bringing religion into the decision.
You advocate the killing of babies and use the word personally! What about teh personhood of the fetus/baby? There are 50 states and I see none which intrude in the reproductive decisions of women/adults. Life begins at conception so the first few weeks are last few weeks make no difference, end result: Human life ceases to exist.
OTOH, I absolutely agree that as the fetus comes closer to being a viable person, the state's interest in the second life grows... Yet reading some of the posts above, I get the feeling that some FReepers would value the life of the baby above that of the mother?
The fetus does NOT come closer to a human person, it IS a human person, all human life is valuable from conception to natural death. We become human when we are conceived.
My father has those whenever the hymn "Glorious things of Thee are spoken" sneaks its way into Mass and all he (or anyone else) hears is ,,Deutschland, Deutschland über alles..."
Good eye brother!
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See ya troll JoeMayce04
This should be required reading for anyone who wants to discuss abortion.
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