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The Nuclear Shadow
NY Times ^
| August 14, 2004
| NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Posted on 08/15/2004 3:52:42 PM PDT by neverdem
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posted on
08/15/2004 3:52:46 PM PDT
by
neverdem
To: Former Military Chick
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posted on
08/15/2004 3:53:26 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(Xin loi min oi)
To: neverdem
If Kerry is elected, at least it will be a sensitive nuclear bomb.
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posted on
08/15/2004 3:55:39 PM PDT
by
Drango
(Free speech only for the veterans who agree with Kerry. All others must be silenced.)
To: neverdem
Pathetic article, blames bush, mentions nothing regarding clinton's eight years when nuclear material was disappearing (but gives him credit for n. korea).
IMHO when it comes to nuclear bombs, the best defense is a good offense.
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:00:22 PM PDT
by
JPJones
To: Drango
If Kerry is elected, the children of the incinerated will get a break on their college loans.
Sensitive.
To: neverdem
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:04:43 PM PDT
by
stockpirate
(Kerry and The Taxocrates must be defeated! "Kerry wasn't in Cambodia before he was in Cambodia.")
To: neverdem
It was CLINTON and his ilk who ENCOURAGED the attacks on America... helped by the New York Times.
PARTIAL LIST OF TERRORIST ACTIVITIES IGNORED BY GORELICK, CLARKE and CLINTON
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:05:27 PM PDT
by
Diogenesis
(Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
To: neverdem
"...give up nuclear aspirations for trade benefits..."
Won't happen. The little creeps will negotiate trade benefits and keep up a shadow nuclear program. **Especially** if lurch gets elected.
IMHO, only solution is good intel and operators willing/able to go in and disable the capability in a big way before it gets farther along. Like German heavy water in WWII.
To: neverdem
Heavily slanted, poorly researched, heavily biased article. Clinton signed a totally non-verifiable agreement with North Korea that lead to their development of nuclear weapons. North Korea cheated brazenly on this agreement and rendered the agreement worthless. Bush's policy towards North Korea is not "fist shaking." We just made a very good offer to North Korea to end their nuclear weapons program in exchange for economic assistance. North Korea rejected the offer, presumably because they're hoping Kerry will win the election and offer them a non-verifiable agreement.
Finally, the Energy Department has already started a crash program to develop high-powered radiation detectors. This effort started long before Schumer's proposal.
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:11:40 PM PDT
by
defenderSD
(The number of people who lie about space aliens for $ far exceeds the number of aliens on earth.)
To: neverdem
This is the same Kristoff who furnished us such "accurate" information about the anthrax letters...
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:13:09 PM PDT
by
genefromjersey
(So much to flame;so little time !)
To: neverdem
Hmmmmm, a New York Times article...Novel ideas! Amazingly in these days the NYT finds everyone in the current administration asleep at the wheel and at the same time overbearing, belligerent, trampling the constitutional rights of terrorists everywhere and concerned only about oil.Errata & corrections will be found Thursday somewhere in the want ads section.
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:20:46 PM PDT
by
BIGLOOK
(I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
To: neverdem
Yet President Bush has, incredibly, at various times even proposed cutting funds for it. He seems bored by this security effort, perhaps because it doesn't involve blowing anything up.Kristof has taken a cheap shot, which does nothing to bolster his credibility.
Does anybody imagine that he could have gotten away with a statement such as, "Yet, Clinton had, incredibly, permitted the North Koreans to violate agreement after agreement without consequence. He seemed to have been bored by that security effort, perhaps because it wasn't wearing a skirt".
To: Drango
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:37:06 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(Xin loi min oi)
To: BIGLOOK
Errata & corrections will be found Thursday somewhere in the want ads section. LOL
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:41:44 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(Xin loi min oi)
To: JPJones
Pathetic article, blames bush, mentions nothing regarding Clinton's eight years when nuclear material was disappearing (but gives him credit for n. korea). This article is a great example of leftists attempting to define the future to fit their lameness: In the author's world, war with Iran and/or North Korea is unthinkable. Bah! It may be immanent.
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:46:54 PM PDT
by
eno_
(Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
To: The Electrician
Kristof has taken a cheap shot, which does nothing to bolster his credibility. That's why I was hesitant to post this article, and was hoping that Former Military Chick, who posted "An American Hiroshima", was going to post this follow-up OpEd.
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:48:39 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(Xin loi min oi)
To: neverdem
A second step we must take is stopping other countries from joining the nuclear club, although, frankly, it may now be too late.Of course, the only way to stop rogue regimes from acquiring such nukes is by "blowing stuff up," a tactic Lord Kristof snidely dismisses as cowboy shenanigans in this very same article.
What a jerk. And what a useless waste of newsprint.
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posted on
08/15/2004 4:57:16 PM PDT
by
Dont Mention the War
(we use the ¡°ml maximize¡± command in Stata to obtain estimates of each aj , bj, and cm.)
To: JPJones
Pathetic article, blames bush, mentions nothing regarding clinton's eight years when nuclear material was disappearing (but gives him credit for n. korea). And you expected, what, from the Slimes?
Never mind that Krazy Kim never stopped building his nuke program despite that Peanut "agreement" back in '94. Never mind that the leap forward in Iran's nuclear ambition happened mostly on S(l)ick Willie's watch.
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posted on
08/15/2004 5:30:30 PM PDT
by
steveegg
(John F'em Ke(rr)y - I was for the war in Iraq before I was against it before I was for it..)
To: JPJones
IMHO when it comes to nuclear bombs, the best defense is a good offense.
Do you really think the US targetting Mecca would slow down for one second a terrorist with the ability to suitcase nuke his target of choice?
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posted on
08/15/2004 5:40:21 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: gcruse
Do you really think the US targetting Mecca would slow down for one second a terrorist with the ability to suitcase nuke his target of choice? That's why you also target Medina and their other "holy" shrines with either simultaneous nuke strikes or (in the case of Jerusalem) the third Temple. While the Koran deals with the destruction of Mecca, I don't believe it also deals with the destruction (especially simultaneous destruction) of the other Islamokazi "holy" sites.
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posted on
08/15/2004 5:51:55 PM PDT
by
steveegg
(John F'em Ke(rr)y - I was for the war in Iraq before I was against it before I was for it..)
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