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1 posted on 08/13/2004 3:36:38 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: snopercod

Bump.


2 posted on 08/13/2004 3:38:47 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: ZGuy
They used the new EPA Approved insulation....so go back to the old (more resistant) insulation and save time/$$$$/lives. To hell w/ the political correctness of the insulation.
3 posted on 08/13/2004 3:47:53 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: ZGuy
Hippies killed the astronauts.

(I wish I was looking for a good name for a punk band.)

4 posted on 08/13/2004 3:49:41 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ZGuy; Professional Engineer

Egads.
They're indirectly stating that envirowacky policy is at fault, but not coming out and saying so.
I do hope they get whatever application process down to a perfect science quickly.


5 posted on 08/13/2004 3:50:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (I'll bayonet your snowmen and beat you down with a chinese yo-yo!!)
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To: ZGuy

This is an obvious whitewash of the environmentalists who destroyed the shuttle. If the original foam, using standard application methods, would have worked without having breakoff-causing voids, then the fault of the disaster still lies strictly with them for forcing the use of an inferior product to save a miniscule amount of pollution. The article does not address the difference in efficacy at all while attempting to change the focus from the material itself to procedures.


6 posted on 08/13/2004 3:58:05 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: ZGuy

So it takes nasa over a year to figure out what FReepers told them during take off- what a bunch of govt jerks!


7 posted on 08/13/2004 4:01:27 PM PDT by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: ZGuy

bump


8 posted on 08/13/2004 4:01:46 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: ZGuy
we did not have a real understanding of the process

That's not much of an excuse.

10 posted on 08/13/2004 4:09:26 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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There are other design changes around the bipod area, as well. More particularly, it is fitted with heaters to keep ice from forming. My recall is fuzzy on the matter (I get, skim then delete NASA news -- freebie maillist, some interesting tidbits)


13 posted on 08/13/2004 4:15:11 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ZGuy

I think I read something a while back that the original application process involved Freon and that they changed it because of the envirowackos.


14 posted on 08/13/2004 4:23:12 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: ZGuy

The foam didn't kill our astronauts. Negligence did!


20 posted on 08/13/2004 4:42:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: ZGuy

"The damage went undetected during the shuttle's 16-day mission. . . "

I recall that some have said that the damage was observed through telescopes, but was ignored.


21 posted on 08/13/2004 4:45:42 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: bonesmccoy; XBob; John Jamieson; Budge

ping


24 posted on 08/13/2004 5:03:35 PM PDT by Thud
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To: leadpenny; winodog
Ping in case you haven't seen this one.

Brings back some bad memories.

25 posted on 08/13/2004 5:11:12 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: ZGuy
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God rest their souls.

29 posted on 08/13/2004 5:18:41 PM PDT by upchuck (Words from sKerry or Actions from President Bush? You decide.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ping...


33 posted on 08/13/2004 5:31:33 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: ZGuy
Recertification is now the biggest obstacle for the tank program. New standards require that no foam pieces heavier than about half an ounce can come off the tank during the first 135 seconds of flight. That is much smaller than the divots that have routinely popped off.

So, then, like, what are they gonna do? Wrap the environmentally-friendly foam with environmentally-friendly chicken wire to hold it all in place?

42 posted on 08/13/2004 6:05:18 PM PDT by solitas (THEY can report all they want - I"LL download what I want, and I'LL decide for ME.)
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To: Budge

Ping!


46 posted on 08/13/2004 6:16:08 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: ZGuy
The fault apparently was not with the chemical makeup of the foam, which insulates the tanks and prevents ice from forming on the outside when 500,000 gallons of supercold liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen are pumped aboard hours before liftoff.

I'm not sure how true this is. Apparently, the conpound was changed from the original formula to satisfy environmental whining. Foam shearing off has been an issue ever since.

47 posted on 08/13/2004 6:17:16 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (*www.fairtax.org* Hate the IRS? Vote for Bush!)
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