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CHARLEY BECOMES A (CATEGORY 4 Now!!) HURRICANE (18 ft. storm surge)
NHC ^ | 08-13-2004 | Forecaster Lawrence

Posted on 08/13/2004 10:08:09 AM PDT by Jeff400000

000 WTNT33 KNHC 131655 TCPAT3 BULLETIN HURRICANE CHARLEY INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 17A NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 1 PM EDT FRI AUG 13 2004

...CHARLEY STRENGTHENS AS IT HEADS TOWARD FLORIDA WEST COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM THE DRY TORTUGAS TO THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE...AND FOR THE FLORIDA WEST COAST FROM EAST CAPE SABLE NORTHWARD TO THE STEINHATCHEE RIVER. A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR THE FLORIDA AND GEORGIA COASTS WERE RECENTLY EXTENDED SOUTHWARD TO JUPITER INLET FLORIDA AND ARE NOW IN EFFECT FROM THE SOUTH SANTEE RIVER SOUTH CAROLINA TO JUPITER INLET. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE TO OCEAN REEF...AND ALONG THE SOUTH FLORIDA MAINLAND FROM OCEAN REEF TO EAST CAPE SABLE...INCLUDING FLORIDA BAY AND LAKE OKEECHOBEE.

A HURRICANE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM FLAGLER BEACH FLORIDA NORTHWARD TO THE SAVANNAH RIVER NEAR THE GEORGIA/SOUTH CAROLINA BORDER.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. COAST FROM OCEAN REEF NORTHWARD TO SOUTH OF COCOA BEACH AND FROM THE SOUTH SANTEE RIVER NORTHWARD TO OREGON INLET NORTH CAROLINA INCLUDING PAMLICO SOUND.

AT 1 PM EDT...1700Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE CHARLEY WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 25.7 NORTH...LONGITUDE 82.5 WEST OR ABOUT 70 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF FORT MYERS FLORIDA.

CHARLEY IS NOW MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 20 MPH AND THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TODAY WITH AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED. ON THIS TRACK...THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE SHOULD REACH THE COAST IN THE VICINITY OF CHARLOTTE HARBOR LATER THIS AFTERNOON.

RECENT REPORTS FROM A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 125 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS...CATEGORY THREE ON THE SAFFIR/SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. THESE STRONGEST WINDS ARE CONFINED TO A SMALL AREA WITHIN A FEW MILES FROM CHARLEYS CENTER.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 30 MILES... 45 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES...165 KM.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 964 MB...28.46 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING IN THE FLORIDA KEYS WILL BE SUBSIDING LATER TODAY. STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 10 TO 13 FEET IS EXPECTED NEAR AND SOUTH OF THE WHERE THE CENTER CROSSES THE FLORIDA WEST COAST. STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 4 TO 7 FEET ALONG AND NEAR THE GEORGIA COAST IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS WITH LESSER FLOODING TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES ARE LIKELY ALONG CHARLEYS PATH ACROSS THE EASTERN UNITED STATES. THESE RAINS COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL FLORIDA INCLUDING THE FLORIDA KEYS TODAY.

REPEATING THE 1 PM EDT POSITION...25.7 N... 82.5 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 20 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...125 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 964 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT 3 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 5 PM EDT.

FORECASTER LAWRENCE


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bush43; charley; charlie; elections; fl; florida; hugelosses; hurricane; hurricanecharley; hurricanecharlie; jeb; jebbush; politics; weather
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To: Moose4
Wonderful post - thanks!

Now to the shower (really)... *g

2,701 posted on 08/14/2004 7:20:47 AM PDT by NCjim
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To: NautiNurse
Some tree falls in the Charleston area, and spotty power outages but mostly every thing's OK. Had some power flickers here around 9:30 and some 50 MPH gusts, but the sun is out and most of the Charleston area is clear and of danger. Myrtle Beach is getting it bad now.
2,702 posted on 08/14/2004 7:22:48 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: EllaMinnow

All clear in JAX, we didn't get anything worse than a mild storm.


2,703 posted on 08/14/2004 7:26:15 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

National weather service says Charlye made landfall in SC at Folly Beach with winds of 85 mph.


2,704 posted on 08/14/2004 7:27:35 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: SunnySide
Sorry but I think modular or mobile homes in hurricane prone areas should have a mandatory mobile home community storm bunker equipped with a generator for all of the mobile park residents to stay safe in. It's the most sensible solution so far. There is no way these people could have remained out of harms way inside their mobile homes. The news showed another senior citizen retirement mobile home park that is destroyed. I find it hard to believe home insurers there carry these mobile homes. It isn't practical or safe. Many many Oklahoma residents have tornado bunkers.

People live in mobile homes because they can't afford to live in regular houses. And they sure as hell can't afford to subsidize a steel-reinforced concrete bunker with failsafe power supply, potable water, foodstuffs, blah blah blah, yada yada yada. Besides, in low lying areas, a bunker would be at risk for flooding in these sorts of situations.

The solution to the problem of mobile home parks is to grow the damned economy so that people can afford to live in regular homes.

Of course, an awful lot of the people who can't afford to live in anything better than a mobile home park are either mentally retarded [or, if not clinically "retarded," at least substantially to the left of center of the bell curve], substance abusers, or single women who keep spreading their legs and making babies with worthless louts who won't marry them, so that, in many of these situations, there's not a whole heckuva lot that even a growing economy can do to improve their fortunes.

2,705 posted on 08/14/2004 7:28:46 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...
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2,706 posted on 08/14/2004 7:30:07 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: EllaMinnow

Just heard that my aunt's mobile home in Port Orange (just south of Daytona Beach) is in good condition. The other mobile homes in her community are not, lots of damage from debris.


2,707 posted on 08/14/2004 7:31:12 AM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: OXENinFLA

FNC just said Charlie hit landfall again ... in South Carolina


2,708 posted on 08/14/2004 7:32:25 AM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: SlickWillard

Those are very crass and unkind remarks.

Some of the mobile home and module home neighborhoods in my area start at over $100,000.


2,709 posted on 08/14/2004 7:32:29 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
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To: angcat; lightingguy

Hey, you're from Drums? We're both from PA too, he's from Oil City (north of Pittsburgh) and I'm from Lewisburg, most of my family lives in Milton. My parents also lived in the Hazleton area for about 10 years.


2,710 posted on 08/14/2004 7:34:53 AM PDT by agrace
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To: SlickWillard
The solution to the problem of mobile home parks is to grow the damned economy so that people can afford to live in regular homes.

This is making me want to puke. We try to teach teens in school and they REFUSE to listen, study, do homework or learn much of anything useful. Upon leaving school, the find they cannot command much of a salary. Then, they end up living in mobile homes. Now, it's someone ELSE'S fault. Pure garbage. The solution is to force the youth to learn in school. Either give them hard labor in the sun, or study in school. Only psychos will choose to work in the hot sun (which they richly deserve). And yes, I know there are exceptions to the rule, but VERY few.

2,711 posted on 08/14/2004 7:37:13 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: SlickWillard

"Besides, in low lying areas, a bunker would be at risk for flooding in these sorts of situations."

I realize the problem with flooding but there are many "above ground" bunkers in Oklahoma because in many areas they can't build below ground level like Florida.
There aren't any basements in Oklahoma either. If there are, they are few and inbetween.


2,712 posted on 08/14/2004 7:40:39 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: Peach
Folly Beach is OK. A few minutes ago, local news showed idiot surfers out in it. Fox News even picked it up.

Local news reported that the hurricane made landfall in Awendaw, a place that was flattened during Hurricane Hugo. Georgetown is getting the heavy stuff now.
2,713 posted on 08/14/2004 7:45:39 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: SunnySide
Local news just reported that preliminary damage estimates are at 15 billion dollars and expected to rise in the areas already hit.
2,714 posted on 08/14/2004 7:48:04 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: Nita Nupress

I think the grownups are over on this thread.


2,715 posted on 08/14/2004 7:49:50 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Thanks for the Charleston update. Had to run to the hardware store. My cousin left here Thursday with the special screwdriver bit needed to get the boards off the windows.


2,716 posted on 08/14/2004 7:55:39 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I served in Viet Nam, and we have better hair"----John F'n Kerry campaign platform)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
HERE'S A REPORT FROM SARASOTA COUNTY:

We were extremely lucky here in the middle portion of the county. Charlotte County, the hardest hit on the coast, is just south of us. The eye came ashore through Charlotte Harbor and moved near the mouth of the Peace River. We had some window rattling, but actually mild compared to Punta Gorda (mouth of the Peace River). From the photos in our local newspaper this storm would have clobbered us but for the landfall further south and the eastward movement into the interior of the state.

If anyone wants to help, contacting the Red Cross in Charlotte, Lee, or Sarasota counties might help. 1-800-HEL-PNOW IS being broadcast on FoxNews.

2,717 posted on 08/14/2004 7:56:09 AM PDT by dukeman
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To: Howlin

Any news from your relatives in Wilmington?


2,718 posted on 08/14/2004 7:56:14 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

We thought about buying a new mobile home to put on our lake lot. Forget about it! We'll build a cabin. They are expensive now. Unless you pay cash by the time it's paid for and falling apart you could have built a nice house.


2,719 posted on 08/14/2004 7:58:56 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Hatteras

They are saying it came ashore at Moore's Landing in SC.

Here:

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=M7tNO.p_0TqT&csz=Awendaw%2C+SC&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=

My niece said that there was no mandatory evacuation of the barrier islands.


2,720 posted on 08/14/2004 8:00:03 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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