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Rush on McGreevy: Sympathy for living a lie
vanity | August 13, 2004 | Vanity

Posted on 08/13/2004 9:53:21 AM PDT by fightinJAG

Okay, please don't flame me. I'm honestly interested in what freepers think about this.

Ever since Rush came back from rehab and started talking about "living a lie" and "not being able to make other people happy" and all that, I've had the uneasy feeling that Rush had "discovered" something more about himself than he was letting on.

Today, listening to Rush as he talked about his empathy for McGreevy, it seemed inevitable to wonder if Rush's empathy (and, please, if you did not hear Rush's comments, realize it's difficult to assess the tone and emotion with which he delivered them) wasn't tied back to his own "living a lie" struggles.

Yes, it would be easy to think that the "lie" was his drug addiction, but . . . I'm posting this because it really seemed as though Rush might be warming up to his own bombshell (whatever that might be).

His commentary was so passionate, in a personal, not political way, that I even wondered if he was (unconsciously) seeing if he could start a thread like this, in order to see what the speculation might be and what the reaction to that speculation might be.

Who heard Rush's opening commentary on McGreevy and what was your reaction/thoughts? Thanks. I'd be interested to know.


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KEYWORDS: baloney; mcgreevy; rush
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To: fightinJAG
Here are my thoughts without having read any of the posts on this thread. I'm guessing that the "living the lie" thing that he has referred to since he came out of rehab (or sometimes referred to as "living to make others happy") had mainly to do with his relationship with Marta and probably previous women. I have no idea what the problems were, but I do know that men and women both can have a tendency to bend over backwards for their mates and if it isn't reciprocated, you can really suffer. This is all conjecture, of course. But I, like you, don't think that the "lie" was the drug addiction. I think this mainly because of his comments immediately after getting out of rehab. It was also very obvious that something was up with Marta right after rehab. He seldom mentioned her the way he did before he went in. Before he went in, he used to say very affectionate things on the air all the time and refer to her as, "the lovely and gracious Marta".

I really love Rush (as much as one can love someone one doesn't know) and hope that he is doing well.

261 posted on 08/13/2004 12:07:28 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (cantfindagoodtaglineeither)
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To: fightinJAG

Anybody who has recovered from an addiction must go through a process of examination. This is not the first time Rush has talked about it, so please don't read into this anymore than need be. I think he was talking about his marriage, trying to please others and not being true to yourself. Anyway, it's the truth and there's nothing wrong with Rush empathizing with the human side of this story.


262 posted on 08/13/2004 12:09:27 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

You're a disgrace.


263 posted on 08/13/2004 12:10:32 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: missanne
"Your name says it all, what a knee JERK reaction! Rush is being what he is, a Christian based individual!"

Good lord. It was a joke. :)

264 posted on 08/13/2004 12:16:29 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: COUNTrecount

Yes, I'm sure it's Streisand. :)


265 posted on 08/13/2004 12:17:37 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Patriotic Bostonian
"How dare you accuse him of being gay."

As for myself, it was a joke. And the thought of Limbaugh smoking expensive cigars in an dress is, well, kinda funny.

266 posted on 08/13/2004 12:20:09 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Hildy
No, it's those that are trying to normalize homosexuality that are a disgrace. Such attempts undermine any type of morality in our society, but help lead those with homosexual desires to their ultimate destruction.

Not surprisingly, the attempt to normalize homosexuality was one of the communist goals for this nation back in 1963. There is certainly a left-wing political agenda attached to such attempts.

It's sad to hear Rush selling out conservatives. It reminds of Barry Goldwater becoming a radical social liberal and marry some witch that was associated with Planned Parenthood at the end of his life.

267 posted on 08/13/2004 12:20:25 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky

He's not selling out anyone, he was making a personal comment about the emotional side of going through a scandal like this. He wasn't making any commentary on homosexuality.


268 posted on 08/13/2004 12:22:18 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: exhaustedmomma
Believe me, I have found myself feeling pretty stupid over a man before, I bet she is torn up.

But she is helping promote the homosexual lifestyle, and agenda.

Thats where I lost my sympathy for her.
269 posted on 08/13/2004 12:28:46 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Socratic

Got it from the author, Terry Pratchett. It's pidgeon Latin


270 posted on 08/13/2004 12:30:08 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: MojoWire
I guess character doesn't matter anymore to Rush and certain "conservatives," does it? All we heard during the 1992 election campaign from Rush is that character mattered, that cheating on one's spouse reflected one's character and that lack of character was a factor when it comes to electing public officials.

Maybe Rush should apologize to Bill Clinton, then, for making his personal life and Monica Lewinsky an issue if he really feels this way.

What McGreevey did is every bit as bad as what Clinton did. McGreevey was essentially be blackmailed and paying off at taxpayer expense. His sexual relationship with this pervert not only resulted in perferential hiring, but also in keeping this guy on the payroll at a $110,000 a year after he was deemed unfit for the job.

271 posted on 08/13/2004 12:32:55 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
I too am concerned. Hannity has picked up on this too. Then again, that's not such a surprise. Although the true scandal is McGreevy's corruption, what has happened to conservatism when perversion in public officials is not an issue?
272 posted on 08/13/2004 12:33:37 PM PDT by asmith92008 (If we buy into the nonsense that we always have to vote for RINOs, we'll just end up taking the horn)
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To: murdoog

But I don't believe the sex deflection can work this time around. At least I hope it won't.


273 posted on 08/13/2004 12:43:44 PM PDT by faux_hog
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To: Hildy

He specifically stated that McGreevey's life would improve now that he was no longer living a lie. That is the equivalent of stating that accepting homosexual desires is a natural and positive thing to do. Only someone with no concept of right and wrong and basic morality would make such a claim.


274 posted on 08/13/2004 12:49:39 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: CTpatriot
However, it sure makes for fascinating reading.

I'm sorry, but I wouldn't give this any credence. The person writing obviously hates Limbaugh and conservatives. It's just a hate-filled article and I wouldn't believe any of it.

275 posted on 08/13/2004 12:55:53 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (cantfindagoodtaglineeither)
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
I thought Rush's tie collection looked gay.

Hmmmmmmmm..... putting two and two together.

276 posted on 08/13/2004 1:04:52 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle (Shrug)
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To: Hildy

Rush has announced many times that he is a male lesbian. Well, hell, so am I. The cool thing about having deviant behavior in your genes is that it gives you license to screw other people (figuratively), counter your vows, claim discrimination whenever anything goes against you...it even qualifies you to be an Episcopal bishop these days.


277 posted on 08/13/2004 1:08:09 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (An American male lesbian.)
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To: fightinJAG
First of all, congratulations on your vanity. Anything that can provoke that many replies, cannot be ALL bad. Some of it is though. In Western society, although the homosexual lobby has been virulent, abusive, hateful and bullying, many people still are leary.

Given the truth of my statement re a leary public, it would still be a heavy handed blow to insinuate something like that. A man, or woman can take a lot of speculation about a lot of things. Nonetheless, in Rush's case it is something that would devastate his image.

I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it, as the phrase goes.

Your speculation, if made only to hurt Rush, is "reprehensible"- Barney Frank pronuniciation. I wonder what your motive is - I mean REALLY- what it is.

278 posted on 08/13/2004 1:19:41 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: rogue6
Hey, now, that's not nice; I happen to LIKE Rats!

Ya, DemocRATS give rats a bad name.

279 posted on 08/13/2004 1:23:25 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!)
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To: wingnuts'nbolts

I agree with everything you say about Rush.
My wife agrees with what you say about me. Only thing is she has the right and the experience and also knows when I am kidding. You know nothing about me and have no right to insult me unless it is that youare my elder.


280 posted on 08/13/2004 1:29:35 PM PDT by larryjohnson (FReepersonaltrainer)
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