Posted on 08/13/2004 7:32:38 AM PDT by saquin
NAJAF, Iraq (AFP) - Shiite Muslim rebel leader Moqtada Sadr issued a list of conditions for an end to more than a week of deadly clashes between his militia and US troops and Iraqi forces, a spokesmen said.
The conditions were spelled out at a news conference at a hotel in the besieged holy city of Najaf by Sheikh Ali Sumeisim.
If all multinational forces, Iraqi police and soldiers leave Najaf and the Marjayia, or religious authority, agrees to take responsibility for the city, "the Mehdi Army would pull out from Najaf," Sumeisim said.
All basic services must be restored, Sadr's Mehdi Army recognised as an ideological movement and its members allowed to carry weapons for self-defence, Sumeisim continued.
Those jailed for supporting the resistance, all imprisoned clerics and women must also be released from prison, the spokesman added.
Flatten the place.
Let the Iraq soldiers and police go into the mosque after him.
The new leaders of Iraq have to set an example with Sadr. He has set himself above the new government. He is delusional. I believe he thinks he should have automatically succeeded his father's leadership. I remember that he is not as sensible or clearheaded as his father was. Maybe I am remembering this wrong.
In any event, if the new leaders of Iraq bend to this guy's demands, it only turns loose the rest of the nut cases and tribal factions in Iraq and the clusterf##k starts all over agains. Back to square one.
I suspect that the longer this drags on, Sadr hopes Kerry gets elected President and he can push even harder. Speaking of Kerry---does the man only own ONE tie? In every appearance that the TV is showing, he is wearing that same pinkish colored item. It is not very attractive to begin with, and he certainly has the $$$ to have more than one tie.
This idiot is cornered in a half square mile area, thousands of his thugs have been killed, injured, or captured in the last ten days, and he is making conditions as if he just achieved his conquest of all of Iraq.
The only thing missing in this picture is BAGHDAD BOB doing the press interviews...... Where is he these days, BTW???
They ONLY respect force. So do YOU have an alternative?
have repeatedly demonstrated they can NOT be trusted, and will continue to violate ALL agreements.
Islamists do not make agreements. They only perpetuate tricks.
Thanks Stumpy....
KABOOM ! ! ! !
Don't be surprised when Jesse Jackson (or Jimmy Carter) shows up on the scene....
If they do, can we count on a MOAB? Surgical strike, only, you understand.....
About 2 1/2 years late. He's been dead since before Dec 13th, 2001.
You misunderstood my comment.
I don't consider you or anyone else who prefers victory instead of PC screwing
around as an "arm chair" anything.
IS THE IRAQI GOV'T BEHIND THIS? I SAY THE US WARN THE IRAQI GOV'T THE NEXT TIME THIS SADR STARTS WITH THIS AGAIN(THERE WILL BE A NEXT TIME) THE IRAQIS CLEAN IT UP THEMSELVES. NO MORE OF SENDING OUR US FORCES IN. THIS IS ALL INSANE. LET THEM DO IT ALL THEMSELVES AND PULL US FORCES OUT ALTOGETHER IF WE ARE GOING TO NOT ALLOW OUR FORCES TO RESPOND TO THESE TERRORISTS.
"If all multinational forces, Iraqi police and soldiers leave Najaf and the Marjayia, or religious authority, agrees to take responsibility for the city, "the Mehdi Army would pull out from Najaf"
As Tereasa would say "SHOVE IT!"
Well, others have accused me of such.
And I was just accused of "wanting to lose the war in Iraq" because I want Sadr and his army dead.
The hysteria around here is simply amazing.
Also, when I say I "want Osama dead" you can insert the name of any Mohammedan terrorist in place of Osama.
The losers don't set "conditions". Not ever.
Best regards.
We are loosing the hearts and minds of millions because we allow a few hunderd vermin to emasculate us.
If this keeps up the new Iraqi government will fail and we will loose the last opportunity to halt the terrorist tide.
Two words: Tora-Bora and Falujah.
If the government of Iraq does not have the political will to eliminate Al Sader, but instead once again allows him and his band of merry men to escape, retreat, receive immunity, or in anyway get away because President Bush wants to fight a P.C. engagement and will not allow the Marines to do what needs to be done in order to deal with this petty thug once and for all (i.e. KILL HIM and his army) then we have lost, this war is over and the troops should come home. We should not be fighting for a people unwilling to fight for themselves, or do what is necessary in order to protect their very existence.
If the Iraqis’ do not possess the political will to crush this threat to their very survival as a nation, then what is happening in Najaf will be repeated over and over again until the Islamic fascists take down the government and replace it with an Islamic fascist state.
This is a watershed event, it is make or break time for President Bush and Iraq!
If he fails to deal with this now, then in all likely hood President Bush is going to lose the election because we cannot win IF we are forced to fight a P.C. war. It is impossible because history has consistently shown that people and nations that fight “sensitive” P.C. wars ALWAYS lose them.
This mosque is not a “holy place” it is a fortress, stocked with weapons and filled with thugs and killers who are bent on killing Americans and destroying the Iraqi government and enslaving the people under Islamic masters and Islamic law. The only way to deal with the situation is to go in and kill or capture them all, not negotiate! The bad guys have us over a P.C. barrel, they KNOW that we are not willing to go in and get them so they have a safe haven and sanctuary and unless we have some way of killing them without touching their “sacred” “holy place” (sarcasm off) then they wait us out, restock, re-supply their “holy place” of death and fight on until they win.
The more time that goes buy in this stalemate the stronger they become because of outside pressure from our supposed “allies” = “Don’t hurt those poor mean-nasty Islamic terrorists, it is against “international law” and the so-called “Arab street,” you know, those “wonderful” Islamic multitudes who want to destroy our civilization, convert us to Islam, enslave us or saw off our heads. Flaujah is the ultimate example; if we let them off the hook, they will only become stronger and stronger until they win.
I believe with all my heart that what is happening right now in Iraq is a watershed, make or break event and what President Bush does there will determine the outcome of the election. If he does not act, decisively, no matter what the polls, our so-called “allies” and political pundents say, then the masses will fall under the sway of Kerrys’ more sensitive, “get us out of Iraq now” policy and he will win the election.
I am not being a pessimist but a realist. Americans want us to fight this thing to win it. If, the president, because of political correctness is not willing to do what needs to be done, i.e. KILL THEM, then he will lose and it is time to pick up our marbles, come home, fortify our own little “island America” and wait for the Islamic hordes to inevitably attack us from within and from without (something they are actively preparing to do). The mosques here in the USA are, like the mosque in Najaf also serving as fortresses and safe-havens where Islamic terrorists and insurgents are filling their people with hatred and training with impunity. If Kerry is elected, our government will not enter these “holy places” because it is “insensitive” to do so.
It is now up to President Bush and the decision he makes regarding Al Sader and the insurgents. This decision will determine the outcome of the war in Iraq and the election at home and all of the Republican conventions, political slogans, balloons in the world will not matter, only the flickering TV images of Al Saddar defiantly thumbing his nose at America, killing our men and continuing to overthrow the government in Iraq will!
I, and millions of others are praying that the President will do what is right, not what is “politically correct” or convenient.
Why waste time, effort and ammunition? Just surround the place, wait 6 months and wait for "thin boy" to come out.
You got it.
Sadr would have been a far distant memory by now if we had of liquiudated him when we had chance after chance long ago.
Yep. I never want to hear his name again. CRUSH THEM.
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