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Sadr sets conditions for end to Najaf fighting: aide
AFP ^ | 8/13/04

Posted on 08/13/2004 7:32:38 AM PDT by saquin

NAJAF, Iraq (AFP) - Shiite Muslim rebel leader Moqtada Sadr issued a list of conditions for an end to more than a week of deadly clashes between his militia and US troops and Iraqi forces, a spokesmen said.

The conditions were spelled out at a news conference at a hotel in the besieged holy city of Najaf by Sheikh Ali Sumeisim.

If all multinational forces, Iraqi police and soldiers leave Najaf and the Marjayia, or religious authority, agrees to take responsibility for the city, "the Mehdi Army would pull out from Najaf," Sumeisim said.

All basic services must be restored, Sadr's Mehdi Army recognised as an ideological movement and its members allowed to carry weapons for self-defence, Sumeisim continued.

Those jailed for supporting the resistance, all imprisoned clerics and women must also be released from prison, the spokesman added.


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KEYWORDS: iraq; najaf; sadr
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To: saquin

A nonstarted, especially the arms, a PR Ploy for the Shias, even worldwide, a kabuki dance before the final kill.

I hope.

Just setting the ground so no blame falls on America or Allawi for wiping him out.

Since he spurned Allawi's offer of a role in politics, this is just to show how benevolent Allawi was before tking him out.


141 posted on 08/13/2004 9:45:21 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Captain Kirk
Iran's Shi'ites already attacked America many times.
I don't give a damn about ANY of their pseudo-"holy"-places.


142 posted on 08/13/2004 9:45:43 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: ASA Vet
We failed in Vietnam

Here is another view put forth by Jim Bohannon a while back.

While it is true we gave up South Vietnam, we might say that Vietnam was not the real war, but a battle in the larger war that was costly to the winner, a Pyrrhic victory. Vietnam was the end of the march of Communism. That was the real war, and it was a win. That being said, Vietnam could have been won and the war in Vietnam over in any three weeks if the puppet masters in Washington had wanted to go all out and finish it.

143 posted on 08/13/2004 9:46:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: 2banana
Warbird5, you are cleared hot...

"Roger that...the weapon is hot...FOX THREE!"

144 posted on 08/13/2004 9:47:08 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: saquin
Then we need to inform Allawi that if our military is not allowed to do its job, then we have no purpose there anymore and will begin pulling out. He can handle Sadr on his own. The choice is his.

AMEN

145 posted on 08/13/2004 9:49:14 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: dts32041

I have been a die-hard Cardinal fan since 1967, and I am enjoying the 2004 NL Central race more than any since I have
been following the Cards.

I grew up in Michigan across the lake from Chicago.I have seen (and this is a VERY conservative #)at least 50 games in
Wrigley, (before I moved to FL)and I dressed in FULL Cardinal "gear" EVERY TIME, even if the cubs weren't playing the Cards.

kerry "claims" to be brave ?? I'd like to see how he'd "perform" dressed in Cardinal Red at a game in Wrigley.

.....he'd probably attend a White Sox game, but it would be "seared....SEARED, into his mind" that he was at Wrigley....


146 posted on 08/13/2004 9:56:13 AM PDT by musicman
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To: RightWhale

I'm in complete agreement with Jim Bohannons viewpoint.


147 posted on 08/13/2004 10:02:00 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: musicman

"kerry "claims" to be brave ?? I'd like to see how he'd "perform" dressed in Cardinal Red at a game in Wrigley."

LOL.........good one


148 posted on 08/13/2004 10:05:13 AM PDT by Gucho
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To: saquin
It's time for Mookie to go into a dirt coma.

http://orsa.blogspot.com/2004/08/sorting-out-mookie.html
149 posted on 08/13/2004 10:11:19 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Knight of The Mind - On Crusade Vs. Liberal Stupidity!!)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Did he apply for his complimentary Purple Heart?

LOL..
Rush just used your line :)

150 posted on 08/13/2004 10:17:38 AM PDT by evad (You cannot start with a false premise and arrive at a valid conclusion)
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To: saquin
sets conditions ?!?!?!?

This punk isn't in a position to set conditions for anything. The country he lives in has been militarily defeated, and the sooner he realizes that, the better.

151 posted on 08/13/2004 10:20:19 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: StumpyPete

one word. MOAB!!!


152 posted on 08/13/2004 10:29:37 AM PDT by jetvol1 (Yeah yeah yeah i love ya. now roll over.)
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To: saquin; All

Iraqi Shi'ite youths approach the Imam Ali shrine after marching from the nearby town of Kufa, to show their support to militiamen in Najaf, August 13, 2004. Iraq's interim government said Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr was negotiating to leave a shrine in Najaf on Friday as thousands of protesters across southern Iraq condemned the latest U.S. offensive. REUTERS/Akram Saleh

British journalist James Brandon (C, seated) is driven to an Iraqi police station in Basra, August 13, 2004. Gunmen kidnapped Brandon in the southern city of Basra, threatening to execute him within 24 hours if U.S. forces did not pull out of Najaf, but the Sunday Telegraph reporter was later released after al-Sadr intervened. QUALITY FROM SOURCE REUTERS/Atef Hassan

British journalist James Brandon arrives at the Basra offices of radical Iraqi Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al Sadr, August 13, 2004. Gunmen kidnapped Brandon in the southern city of Basra, threatening to execute him within 24 hours if U.S. forces did not pull out of Najaf, but the Sunday Telegraph reporter was later released after al-Sadr intervened. REUTERS/Atef Hassan

A picture showing alleged Egyptian hostage in Iraq Mohammed Fawzi Abdaal Mutwalli released by his family in Egypt. An Islamic Web site posted still pictures Friday Aug. 13, 2004, that purportedly showed Iraqi militants beheading Mohammed, who they claimed was spying for the U.S. military. (AP Photo/HO)

An armed elderly Iraqi militiaman stands guard outside the sacred shrine of Imam Ali in the southern city of Najaf, August 13, 2004. Iraq's interim government said Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr was negotiating to leave a shrine in Najaf on Friday as thousands of protesters across southern Iraq condemned a U.S. offensive in the holy city. REUTERS/Akram Saleh

An elderly Iraqi woman holds a rifle while posing with militiamen during a demonstration in the southern city of Najaf, August 13, 2004. Mass protests against the U.S. assault on the sacred Shi'ite Muslim city of Najaf broke out in five Iraqi cities on Friday, with some demonstrators calling for interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi to step down. REUTERS/Akram Saleh

American troops stand guard as the charred remains of a vehicle allegedly belonging to the Fiji delegation of the multinational force is towed near the northern Iraqi city of Mosul where it was attacked, Friday Aug. 13, 2004. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ibrahimi)

Thousands of al-Sadr supporters walk across the Tigris river as they gather to take part in a demonstration outside the Green Zone, the fortified enclave housing most Iraqi government ministries, as well as the U.S. and British embassies in central Baghdad, IraqFriday Aug. 13, 2004. (AP Photo/Samir Mizban)

Iraqi civilians pray during a demonstration where thousands of al-Sadr supporters gathered outside the Green Zone, the fortified enclave housing most Iraqi government ministries, as well as the U.S. and British embassies in central Baghdad, Iraq Friday Aug. 13, 2004. (AP Photo/Hadi Mizban)

A U.S. soldier watches over the area after raiding the southern city of Najaf, August 13, 2004. U.S. Marines backed by aircraft and tanks captured the Najaf city center in a massive attack against the Mehdi Army on Thursday. REUTERS/Akram Saleh

153 posted on 08/13/2004 10:32:21 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Guillermo; Dane

blah blah blah... military comanders... blah blah blah???

by and large our military commanders, and our national leadership, have both made and kept our Nation NUMBER ONE on the planet... for the last fifty or sixty years...

you don't like our guys in the field running the show?
prefer somebody else's type of military and political leadership were calling the shots?

we are number one for a reason.
one is we let them do their jobs.

I want the effer dead WORSE than you.
but if our leaderhip and military commanders think their is advantage for some reason, by letting up? SO BE IT. THey are on the scene, they took Iraq initially in about a week... I trust them. You should too.

Sadr is toast eventually either way.
But most likely by IRAQI hands.

Democratic Iraqi hands.
that's good for arabs to see REGIONALLY... not just Iraqis.


154 posted on 08/13/2004 10:57:15 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

some folks around here don't get it.
we don't have a pretend "iraq".
they are not our sock puppets.

WE are the attack dogs.
Allawi is the one holding the leash and using our "expertise" aka kicking ass... to build democracy... and face down the wack jobs.

When we are finished, or tired of doing the job (belieiving the iraqis can handle their own criminal element and foreign invasion problems) we will move on.

some folks are looking to see if we back down, or if iraq is a puppet of ours. it's not. this is the proof. arabs can see it. arabs and islamists everywhere. Whatever we need to do, even if it IS PC, we ought to do, to make sure we leave Iraq a sovereign national democracy.

and we will.
that being said... I want the sadr to get "justice"
so do the iraqis.

and he will get "it."
in due time.


155 posted on 08/13/2004 11:04:18 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Diogenesis

Let me repeat: what is your strategic plan to deal with the situation once the Allawi government collapses and the south secedes after we level the Shrine of Ali and other mosques?


156 posted on 08/13/2004 11:08:06 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: StumpyPete

If they use the Mosque as a staging ground for attacks, it should be attacked and flattened


157 posted on 08/13/2004 11:26:22 AM PDT by Lori675
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To: Lori675

And your plan to deal with the consequent fall of the the Allawi government and the secession of the south which will come after the shrine is leveled is....?


158 posted on 08/13/2004 11:30:30 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
"You're wrong, Jim. Get off the drugs.
Letting them go will only encourage them
to murder more and take more hostages."

159 posted on 08/13/2004 11:37:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Diogenesis

Ask a serious and specific question and get a joke. Why did I even bother?


160 posted on 08/13/2004 11:40:40 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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