If Bush wants to fulfil sceptical liberal predictions of another Vietnam then he should continue doing what he is doing. This seems to be the cycle: Insurgents cause violence. US assaults insurgents. Insurgents take losses and call cease fire. Insurgents regroup and rearm. Insurgents cause violence. Al-Sadr will never be a decent human being. There is no reason for negotiations. Everytime we assault and stop, more Marine dies and it kills moral. NOTE TO BUSH: STOP PLAYING POLITICS WITH MARINES LIVES. For a President who defined sceptics to invade Iraq (rightfully) he certainly has taken a back step, overly worrying about Muslim sensitivities.
I still like him, and he is doing a better job than Kerry would, but come on already
how many chances will we give Sadr, when he does deserve any?
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To: Barney Gumble
Look for this cycle coming from state, not 1600.
I get the feeling that W is the type of commander that leaves his field leaders alone to prosecute his policy. I think the arabist state department would be the author of this kind of counterproductive protocol.
stopping when momentum is on your side is costly.....in both momentum and lives.
Pray for the troops,
54 posted on
08/13/2004 4:51:49 AM PDT by
petro45acp
("Government might not be too bad...................if it weren't for all the polititians!")
To: Barney Gumble
re:"We are allowed to engage the enemy only in self defense and long enough to break contact," said Maj. Bob Pizzateli, executive officer for the 1st Battalion, 5th Cavalry Regiment of the 1st Cavalry Division. "That was a blanket order for everybody."
who the hell is calling the shots in this dog & pony show? jeezus this is the kind of political thinking crap that f****ed us in vietnam and gets people killed.
It's like whoevers calling the shots has ben screwing up purposely for the last several months, because alot of these decisions are just flat out stupid.
56 posted on
08/13/2004 4:56:09 AM PDT by
tomakaze
(Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
To: Barney Gumble
Negotiate what??? Why is this guy still wasting perfectly good oxygen?
60 posted on
08/13/2004 5:02:00 AM PDT by
BiteMedems
(Proud Voter of GWB Term One and Term Two)
To: Barney Gumble
0 for 2. I did not read all the details of the article. I did not have to read them. Our actions/inactions speak louder than words.
66 posted on
08/13/2004 5:12:10 AM PDT by
Chief_Joe
(From where the sun now sits, I will fight on -FOREVER!)
To: Barney Gumble
I believe in negotiating from the flashing muzzle of an M-16A2. Stop talking, move in, wipe them out.
My former Army Division from years back is in the middle of this stuff. Its not going to end till full victory is achieved.
69 posted on
08/13/2004 5:13:39 AM PDT by
Lockbar
To: Barney Gumble
I still like him, and he is doing a better job than Kerry would, but come on already
how many chances will we give Sadr, when he does deserve any? I suspect what is being negotiated is a surrender or die scenario. No way they pull back now. They have them surrounded. Blast them out, starve them out, or let them surrender. In any case, it all ends here.
70 posted on
08/13/2004 5:28:47 AM PDT by
Tennessean4Bush
(An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
To: Barney Gumble
More "strategery" from those who brought you the miracle in Fallujah. Mr. President, let our troops fight - or - pull them out of Iraq!
72 posted on
08/13/2004 5:47:17 AM PDT by
mikegi
To: Barney Gumble
Not again!
The only thing that will gain respect in Iraq (and bring home the troops) is force.
The insurgents must be crushed completely, compelled to surrender.
Otherwise, we'll see a replay of the fighting in six months.
75 posted on
08/13/2004 5:49:11 AM PDT by
quadrant
To: Barney Gumble
Politics... Diplomacy...
Dare I say It ? ... ... Sensitivity ... ...
Such tactics have been a mistake from the start..
They only encourage militants to play the game...
Sadly, it is too late now, to act decisively, with dispatch and resolve..
A pattern has evolved, and the Jihadists will play it to the hilt, much to our disadvantage..
78 posted on
08/13/2004 6:05:32 AM PDT by
Drammach
(Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
To: Barney Gumble
To: Barney Gumble
There should be NO TERMS except the following
Immediate and UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER
91 posted on
08/13/2004 6:39:16 AM PDT by
Leatherneck_MT
(Good night Chesty, wherever you may be.)
To: Barney Gumble
This is totally unacceptable. The war is being managed from the white house. If we do not rid Iraq of these thugs, terrorists, Muslim mercenaries and other fanatical killers, we will be fighting them here. When you have a killer cornered, you kill him. Either fight a war to annihilate the enemy or get out.
I'm a Bush supporter but this is wrong.
97 posted on
08/13/2004 7:00:47 AM PDT by
afnamvet
(USAF Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 NOT FONDA KERRY!)
To: Barney Gumble
I thought that muslims never lie? Turn the Marines loose and the problem will be solved. I am sick of all this muslim sensitivity. If the shoe were on the other foot, the mooselems would happily destroy a christian church with all occupants including women and children.(Infidels) The P.C. war tactics need to cease and let the Marines do their job. If we allow a truce, then we will fight them again later. Destroy the mosque and if there is a survivor ask him, "Where's Your Allah Now." God Loves The Infantry. Bush/Cheney2004
To: Barney Gumble
Dammit! I thought they'd get that fat bastard this time.
102 posted on
08/13/2004 7:21:08 AM PDT by
edchambers
(Where are we going and why am I in this hand-basket?)
To: Barney Gumble
Amazing. It didn't even take one reply. Nope, the same one who posted the article tries to blame it on President Bush.
Do you even pay attention to world events?
103 posted on
08/13/2004 7:26:03 AM PDT by
Coop
(In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
To: Barney Gumble
"Hopefully the talks will go well and everything will be resolved peacefully," Pizzateli said.The continuing triumph of hope over experience. I'm not there, and I implicitly trust those who are. God help us all if their judgment fails.
106 posted on
08/13/2004 7:34:51 AM PDT by
timpad
(Peace without victory is procrastination)
To: Barney Gumble
Perhaps a diversion - like nuking Iran - would satisfy you.
109 posted on
08/13/2004 7:47:06 AM PDT by
verity
(The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
To: Barney Gumble
Golly sakes, fight to win....
To: Barney Gumble
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