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KERRY/CAMBODIA UPDATE (Kerry draws parallels to Apocalypse Now in story)
Instapundit ^ | Glenn Reynolds

Posted on 08/11/2004 12:02:30 PM PDT by Brian Mosely

KERRY/CAMBODIA UPDATE: I promised a while back to see if I could get a look at the Boston Herald story -- where Kerry says he remembers spending Christmas, 1968 in Cambodia and hearing President Nixon deny that troops were there -- in original form. The quote's genuine, and here's an image. Sorry it's a bit hard to read: it's a scan of a fax of a photocopy of a microfilm, sent to me by a helpful reader who works at the Herald.

But what's really interesting is the context -- see the full scan here -- which is all about Kerry's Vietnam experiences as they relate to Francis Ford Coppola's Apocalypse Now. Unlike Al Gore and Love Story, Kerry doesn't claim that the movie is about him -- but he sure draws parallels. In fact, the passage that everyone has been quoting actually reads like this, when you include the prior sentence that people haven't been including:

On more than one occasion, I, like Martin Sheen in "Apocalypse Now," took my patrol boat into Cambodia

In fact, I remember spending Christmas Day of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese Allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real. But nowhere in "Apocalypse Now" did I sense that kind of absurdity.

So Kerry's Vietnam experience was like Apocalypse Now, only it was more so.

How much this adds to the debate isn't clear to me -- but in case anyone was doubting the provenance of this particular quotation, well, I'm satisfied now that its authenticity, if not its veracity, is pretty clear.

Presumably, some big-time journalists are even now interviewing people and combing the records to see if this version of Kerry's 1968 Christmas was correct. (For other, inconsistent, versions, click here.) And for those -- apparently unclear on my age and suspecting me of draft-dodging -- who want to know where I was spending my Christmas in 1968, it was in Heidelberg, Germany. I got a train, and an SST model kit.


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To: Vortex

Ok, I mis-read that. I guess he meant "News", so it's only 80, now. Not as fast growing, then...


141 posted on 08/11/2004 3:04:28 PM PDT by Vortex
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To: Brian Mosely; S.O.L.; MeekOneGOP; RonDog

Go to this FR link to see this Boston Herald article scanned into FR forever.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1188739/posts?page=79#79

Thanks to S.O.L. for finding this orginal artical and thanks to Meekonegop for scanning into a reply. Now It will not disappear.

This needs to get to our media and the Swift Boat Vets.


142 posted on 08/11/2004 3:04:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: tomahawk
This Cambodia thing could be fatal to Kerry's campaign. We need to get to the bottom of it.

But Bill O'Bloviator says it's no big deal--a mere misstatement.

143 posted on 08/11/2004 3:06:37 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Brian Mosely
The Kerry-Conrad Heart of Darkness is the Neo-neo Liberals up-ending reality and their fabrication of the Kennedy and Vietnam mythology surrounded and shrouding the truth. After all John F. Kennedy has proven to be revered in death by assassination and death than should he have died of natural causes and in his questionable health. Liberalism's mythology is built largely on a house of cards.

144 posted on 08/11/2004 3:24:08 PM PDT by Helms ( And the Sand - Monkeys saw that the sand had become glass and the light shown as from Two Suns)
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To: Brian Mosely
Multi- Millionare's Club Presents The " Two Johns " Platinum Commemorative Edition Lighter

This Newly Commemorative Two ( 2 ) John' s Lighter Celebrates the Failed Democratic 2004 Election Ticket of John Kerry (of Nixon's Vietnam and Cambodia fame) and Johnny Reid Edwards ( son of a millworker the Tobacco State, N.C.). This Circa 1968 Lighter was reconditioned from its humble and original Brass casing and has been updated to Platinum to accentuate the new status and private wealth accrued through marriage and the jury box. It is also a must have lighter for GWB supporters who stood by their Country and in the face Liberal Major Media Elites.

145 posted on 08/11/2004 3:36:56 PM PDT by Helms ( And the Sand - Monkeys saw that the sand had become glass and the light shown as from Two Suns)
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To: pepperhead
O'Reilly: I smell a rat. He is one of the Kennedy School pupils.


146 posted on 08/11/2004 3:42:08 PM PDT by Helms ( And the Sand - Monkeys saw that the sand had become glass and the light shown as from Two Suns)
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To: Helms

Billy Bob- "We were laughing all the way, Kerry was always in Cambodia during Christmas"


147 posted on 08/11/2004 3:45:18 PM PDT by 30 something american (never argue with idiots, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If the truth of Kerry's Manchurian Candidacy doesn't get out to the American public, the fix is in and Kerry is President. He's been a programmed zombie for decades.

Actually, a real programmed zombie would be more diligent, more competent, more convincing.

I'm afraid the truth about Kerry is much more about ordinary human failings and pride and taking shortcuts to get where you want to go.

Besides, FR tradition has it that it's McCain who is the Manchurian.
148 posted on 08/11/2004 3:54:37 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Brian Mosely

All of this goes to the character of this guy - oh, NO not another Mr. Bill! In researching this Swiftboat issue we have overlooked another group of Navy folks who may be able to add information. HAL-2 was a light helo squadron who provided overhead cover to Swiftboats along the Mekong. These men attacked everything in front of these moving boats and along the banks. They were first to be called when the boats took fire. Perhaps we can flush out some of those Naval Aviators to help in this effort? I went to flight school with several of these guys and flew missions in Vietnam with the USMC. God bless Hugh Hewitt for his efforts in exposing this fraud - will be hear "No,legal authority" before this is over?


149 posted on 08/11/2004 3:54:40 PM PDT by Heartofdarkness (Often tested, Always faithful, Brothers forever.)
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To: blackdog
Nobody cared when Clinton claimed he grew up with childhood memories of black churches burning in Arkansas as a boy, ...

To liberals, this is speaking in the service of a higher truth, a sure sign of noble compassion.

It's an art required of their top leadership, indeed, the primary qualification to be a Dim leader.

I'm glad to see someone else remembers this. You must be an oldtime FReeper to recall it.
150 posted on 08/11/2004 4:02:14 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Brian Mosely
And sure enough, if you go here and click "view source" you'll see this:

meta name=target content="military record, cambodia, vietnam, military service"


Quick! Cache a copy of it before they make it disappear!

You have to wonder if he'll even have a single web page left by November.
151 posted on 08/11/2004 4:05:48 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: tomahawk

I heard that he was very much a loner when he was in the Swift Boats. That he spent most of his time in his hooch writing. People were wondering what he was writing. Could it have been the "Great American Novel" with himself as the starring character, later to be played out in front of the Senate and MTP and Cavett... all the biggies? The world wonders.


152 posted on 08/11/2004 4:09:04 PM PDT by johnb838 (John F'n Kerry: If you have to say you're cool (or a war hero), you're not.)
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To: George W. Bush
Actually I am just a political junkie with a great memory and a passion for history. I was outraged by just about everything the Clinton "Higher Truth" crowd spewed from their pie-holes.

I also remember a quote from Hillary's enabler, who up to that point in his life I admired deeply, Senator Moynihan. He said of Al Gore's candidacy in 1998, "The man is entirely unelectable"

DPM was just about the last Adiccus Finch type, learned individuals with an awesome command of world history. Sure he was liberal in many cases, but he was intellectually honest in all cases until he sold his soul to the she-devil. I will spend the rest of my life wondering just why?

153 posted on 08/11/2004 4:16:07 PM PDT by blackdog (Hell is an endless hayfield needing to be raked, baled, and put up.)
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To: RaceBannon
I hope you've done something about being overweight since then...for the sake of your health...y'know.

My pajamas may be big enough for a Geo Metro, but not for an Apollo craft.

154 posted on 08/11/2004 4:18:06 PM PDT by LouisWu (*urp*... oops, sorry.)
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To: johnb838

Maybe this:

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/journal_day2.shtml


155 posted on 08/11/2004 4:26:23 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: tomahawk

RATS are frozen on this issue. Lame explanations like: 'What's the big deal, it was just a little hyperbole,' don't work because when Kerry was saying these things upon his return from Vietnam...when he was trashing vets, and Nixon was battling charges by RATs that he was invading Cambodia. This is serious stuff. Kerry lied repeatedly. Rush said yesterday that Kerry was imploding. Panic setting in over at DU and RAT headquarters? This bogus war hero record is Kerry's raison d'etre for running. The RATs didn't have anyone else who'd been anywhere near a gun, other than Hillary eating that turkey last Thanksgiving. They were counting on Kerry to trump Bush's aircraft carrier picture. This could be the beginning of the end of Kerry's campaign. Hillary's already warming up in the wings.

Talk of a Kerry and the missus shouting match today. Mama T. is tired of campaigning. Well, Kerry should have foreseen this. Either they up her meds or top up her glass more often. But keep her talking. The dynamic duo are the funniest thing since Howie Noneck Dean. Maybe that's the problem. Kerry's peaked too soon, and Mama T. is bored.


156 posted on 08/11/2004 4:34:46 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Jewels1091

Brit Hume alluded to smears against Nixon at the time, RATs saying he planned to invade Cambodia...this is one reason why Kerry's lies were so damaging and important. (Other than the fact that he smeared honorable American soldiers, dead and alive.)


157 posted on 08/11/2004 4:36:36 PM PDT by hershey
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To: tomahawk

So what do RATS do now? Tiptoe away from this? Hope nobody mentions their candidate is a liar? It will come up, though, on Sunday shows, on SNL, in newspaper columns, and in voters' minds. This is really bad news for Kerry. He's in deep doodoo.


158 posted on 08/11/2004 4:39:47 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Brian Mosely
Was Kerry delivering Chuck Barris for a CIA hit on a Colonel who’d gone mad in Cambodia?

The Spy Who Gonged Me

159 posted on 08/11/2004 4:51:20 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: OXENinFLA; PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; Cindy; SusanTK; AdmSmith; Valin; Luis Gonzalez; ...



160 posted on 08/11/2004 5:21:51 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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