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UPDATE: DRUDGE: Separate Hotel Rooms After Shouting Match (Evita Alert)
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Posted on 08/11/2004 8:38:31 AM PDT by Conservomax

Edited on 08/11/2004 9:10:02 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: TruthNtegrity
The pictures I've seen of her, staring off into space, disassociated from whatever John-boy is doing, leaning out the window of the bus, etc., really made me wonder if she's zoning out on substance abuse of some sort. At times, she seems so disconnected - in a way that can only be helped along with alcohol or pills.

I'd bet that she takes a few drinks with additional prescribed medication. Not a good combination, unless you want to fall over.

And her beloved first husband? She is also reported to have told him "No way" as well - and she really, really loved/loves HIM.

She did tell him "no way", and she and he were beautiful together, and there was great worry here in Pittsburgh among her close friends that she was suicidal at the time of his death, and for a long amount of time afterwards. She really loved John Heinz, who was a gem. I used to play tennis with him.

She most likely is having buyer's remorse at this point.

FOR SURE!!!

I don't think she stays in the Georgetown townhome mansion when Congress is in session - so they are apart a lot of the time. Many marriages depend on these long separations to survive. "Distance makes the heart grow fonder" and all that.

Yep, she's getting too clear a picture of this FRAUD!

Plus she is used to being waited on hand-and-foot. This bus tour thing must be difficult for someone used to living such a privileged life and having the ability for anonymity at any point they want. There is no anonymity on the campaign trail. She may be close to a breakdown before November rolls around.

Exactly, I wouldn't be surprised to see her "go home" to here in Fox Chapel (Pittsburgh), and let Effin try to pull off this charade by himself!

You are right on everything!

721 posted on 08/12/2004 5:42:36 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: texasbluebell; Fred Nerks; Martin Tell; KayEyeDoubleDee; All
He's a Buddhist

Gee, that's great.

So much for the Prince of Denmark revenge hypothesis.

722 posted on 08/12/2004 6:02:51 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

in all fairness, she is in her mid 60's.


723 posted on 08/12/2004 6:35:48 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: beyond the sea

Friends of our family knew their family as well. GOP PA insiders. Your feeling is their's as well. I shutter each time I see the Heinz sons being trotted out before the cameras.

BTW I love your FR name...


724 posted on 08/12/2004 7:02:36 AM PDT by all4one (TM - Not a Proper Social Club & Not for the Fainthearted)
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To: Bonaparte

LOL, great idea.


725 posted on 08/12/2004 7:04:50 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: TruthNtegrity

Well Terry did say that she's "only been married to JFK for 9 years and [she] doensn't really know him very well." Now it's 24/7. Be careful what you wish for.


726 posted on 08/12/2004 7:31:26 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: all4one

"Maybe [Mrs. Heinz Kerry] is having 'buyers remorse'...she once had an attractive, accomplished, conservative Republican husband...and now..."

I wonder how sincere we are in our expressions of religious faith when we name-call a woman none of us know. So much for charity and forbearance.

She was a child of privelege in the colonial society of Mozambique, a devout Roman Catholic school girl, then the wife of a man of great personal appeal, wealth, and with a commitment to public service.

I think she was still grieving for John Heinz, her children were grown, she was lonely when Kerry approached her.

Her "handlers" on this campaign, those who are trying to make her into something more "appealing" to voters, are probably people, the Carvilles, Lehanes, that John Heinz would not have allowed to put one tacky foot anywhere near him or his family.

I haven't seen her pretending to "relate" to the people at Kerry's rallies; that would be insulting. Barbara and Laura Bush don't do that either.

It must disgust Mrs. Heinz Kerry to see Kerry "getting down with the rubes" and over doing it. Kerry's sister said, "John is a man of the people. Of the little people, actually." Mrs. Heinz Kerry would gag on such a sentence. I believe.

I think that this campaign has drawn Mrs. Heinz Kerry deeper into John Kerry's world of makeshift and evasion and deceit. The contrast between her first husband, "the love of my life," and this creature, part Baron Munchhausen, part Mac the Knife, is becoming more obvious to her. The horror!

I posted some of this yesterday on a thread that was pulled. b.



727 posted on 08/12/2004 7:55:56 AM PDT by Barset
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To: DB
You're wrong, anyone with money would be foolish not to get a pre-nup. I'm having a huge argument with a friend of mine, he's established in business, owns his home, has money, etc. He's getting married to a girl 20 years younger than he. When I asked him if he got a pre-nup, he said he wanted to, but he didn't know how to ask her. I told him that if he doesn't, he's too stupid for me to be friends with him because I see the writing on the wall and I don't need the crying five years from now when she takes him for all he's got.

Any woman who would balk at that isn't worth marrying, and I'm a woman.

728 posted on 08/12/2004 7:58:54 AM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: all4one
BTW I love your FR name...

It's the title of a very nice 60's song by Bobby Darin.

p.s. I like yours too. I was going to have a screen name with a similar configuration.

icab9usaforuandme

:-)

729 posted on 08/12/2004 8:10:09 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: beyond the sea

I know the song. Darin, Sinatra, Bennett...my parents and grandparents always had their music playing while we were growing-up. I now have my own collection, and am surprised how many others in their 20's and 30's still have an appreciation of this music, really timeless. My husband laughed when I taught my 8 year-old to play "Summer Wind" on the piano.


730 posted on 08/12/2004 8:32:01 AM PDT by all4one (TM - Not a Proper Social Club & Not for the Fainthearted)
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To: beyond the sea

Thank you for your affirmation of my suppositions, watching her and reading what I have about her.

I didn't know John Heinz but I have read that they had a fantasy marriage in the sense that it was just perfect. They loved each other dearly. He was the genuine thing which must be a stark contrast for what she is now finding out about her second husband.

While waiting for my van to be worked on I read a TIME magazine interview that was done with her and Edward's wife. She struck me as pleasant, kind, thoughtful and well educated. This experience of the campaign must be very difficult.

I can't hlep but wonder if she can't, at some point, tell John-boy that she needs a break, and get herself to her home in Pittsburgh where she can recharge her batteries, and get a break from being around the droning-voiced one. With some separation, perhaps from what she's read and heard (supposing that she has) about her second husband's Viet Nam service and the Camobida "story", she will be able to absorb the facts, and make some calm decisions for her future that do NOT involve Sen. Kerry.


731 posted on 08/12/2004 9:38:49 AM PDT by TruthNtegrity ("No man works harder for his money than he who marries it.")
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To: TruthNtegrity
I can't hlep but wonder if she can't, at some point, tell John-boy that she needs a break, and get herself to her home in Pittsburgh ---

Yes, I want her back here. I'm for Bush, vehemently, but I don't find a need for G.W. to win this election because Teresa explodes, and, she's on the edge. I can see it in her body language, and many here in Pittsburgh are worried for her safety.

She should leave the campaign, come home, and allow Effin to blow it all by himself. Believe it or not, she's not a bad woman. He brings her down, way down!

732 posted on 08/12/2004 10:55:18 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: beyond the sea

I have read some of your comments with interest. I have found myself (in spite of myself) viewing her as a woman in true emotional pain.

John Heinz was the love of her life. I recall she served out his Senate term. In the past I had seen interviews with her and she was an entirely different woman. I wasn't paying much attention, but she did not strike me as having radical left winged political leanings. In fact, when Kerry announced his candidacy, I wondered how that would work?

How long had John Heinz been dead before she and Kerry married? She is not a stupid woman, by any stretch of the imagination. She has to know what is being said, the contradictions and lies he has told. Maybe she is seeing the "do anything, say anything" part of him for the first time and applying it to her own life. What a slap in the face that could be.

I do feel sorry for her, but I don't base my vote on pity.


733 posted on 08/12/2004 11:07:07 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Hildy
Sorry, but I wouldn't marry a woman that I didn't trust with my money. My kids (or future kids) are more important than my money as well. Why don't they deserve more consideration than the money?

I take my marriage vows seriously. I did so before God.

If there are doubts about the money then there should be doubts about the marriage. The only doubts should be on your end, will I fail them, not will they fail me. If you're already concerned about the other's failures, they aren't the right person to make a life long commitment with.

Personally I'd say your friend has some "issues" if he feels the need to marry someone 20 years younger than himself. A major red flag to begin with.
734 posted on 08/12/2004 12:09:15 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: apillar
Maybe she walked in and caught him and the "breck girl" in an...ahhm...compromising situation...

 

Y'think???


735 posted on 08/12/2004 12:10:49 PM PDT by Fintan (Got gum?)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
How long had John Heinz been dead before she and Kerry married? She is not a stupid woman, by any stretch of the imagination. She has to know what is being said, the contradictions and lies he has told. Maybe she is seeing the "do anything, say anything" part of him for the first time and applying it to her own life. What a slap in the face that could be.

You could look those numbers up yourself...........It was a few years between marriages.

She is a broken woman, she's living (I believe under the influence of something pharmacuetical, and it breaks my heart.)

I miss the girl I knew in 1970 when she was John Heinz' wife. She was a darling, sweet, gentle woman! No "shove its" back then. We lived in a sector of Pittsburgh where those sentiments were not needed..........ever!

Pray for her getting away from this FRAUD Kerry, and pray for the FRAUD Kerry to be exposed as the FAKE that he is. He should be strung up!

736 posted on 08/12/2004 1:56:58 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: Hildy
When I asked him if he got a pre-nup, he said he wanted to, but he didn't know how to ask her. I told him that if he doesn't, he's too stupid for me to be friends with him because I see the writing on the wall and I don't need the crying five years from now when she takes him for all he's got.

Any woman who would balk at that isn't worth marrying, and I'm a woman.

An alternative would be getting married in Louisiana under a Covenant Marriage:

http://www.google.com/search?q=louisiana+covenant+marriage&safe=off

737 posted on 08/12/2004 4:39:59 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: DB
Personally I'd say your friend has some "issues" if he feels the need to marry someone 20 years younger than himself. A major red flag to begin with.

Unless, say, he's 55, she's 35, and he needs to go at least that low just to have the tiniest possibility of a fertile womb.

738 posted on 08/12/2004 4:43:50 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: beyond the sea
I miss the girl I knew in 1970 when she was John Heinz' wife. She was a darling, sweet, gentle woman! No "shove its" back then. We lived in a sector of Pittsburgh where those sentiments were not needed..........ever!

Yeah, I seem to recall you making that point in a thread about six months ago.

739 posted on 08/12/2004 4:45:14 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: texasbluebell; Fred Nerks; Martin Tell; KayEyeDoubleDee; beyond the sea; All
More on Little Lord Fauntleroy, courtesy of Carl from Oyster Bay:
Heinz Kerry Mystery Son Backed Nader

Publicity-shy prospective first son H. John Heinz IV backed Ralph Nader in the 2000 election with a $1,000 contribution - and won't say whether he'll support his stepfather, John Kerry, in this year's race.

The 37-year-old Heinz IV is a committed Zen Buddhist who works as a blacksmith in Bucks County, Pa. He told reporters in 1995 that he was a registered Independent.

Publicly available voting records list the eldest son of Teresa and the late Sen. John Heinz III as "non-partisan."

But because the secretive Heinz IV won't speak to the press now, Kerry campaign flacks are desperately trying to fill in the blanks in a way that won't embarrass his stepfather.

Complicating matters is a 2002 quote from Teresa saying that she believed her eldest son started "hating her" around the time his first daughter was born in 2000.

Asked if Heinz IV would be backing his mother's husband, Heinz Kerry spokeswoman Marla Romash told Newsday, "I'm sure" he will.

What about the $1,000 he gave to Nader in 2000?

"Listen, John is entitled to his privacy. ... "

How can Romash be sure that Heinz IV supports Kerry?

"It's a ridiculous question," she told the paper.

As for Teresa's "my son hates me" revelation, Romash declined to comment, saying only that the Heinzes are "a close and loving family."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/12/110239.shtml


740 posted on 08/12/2004 5:32:17 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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