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COPS COLLAR, CUFF, BOOK & BRIG TEENS: FOR SKATEBOARDING
The Boston Herald ^ | 11 August 2004 | Casey Ross

Posted on 08/11/2004 7:22:50 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost

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To: sandyeggo
Somehow this doesn't ring true to me. I have a 12 year old boy and these don't sound like words that would fall out of a 12-year-old's mouth. It sounds parroted.

I grew up in a suburban community north of Boston, and I've known from a very young age onward the the cops in my town had nothing to do except for busting couples parking and breaking up teenage drinking parties. As a matter of fact, of all the cops on the force in that town now, more than a few of them were the ones who got busted in their younger days.

61 posted on 08/11/2004 8:37:31 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: booann777

"Our middle school actually allows skateboards on their premises and can be carried around like a book!"

Wow. I can't believe they'd allow that. They're just asking to be sued.


62 posted on 08/11/2004 8:39:05 AM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (A proud member of the bourgeoisie since 1966)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Sounds like Maclom in the Middle Episode
63 posted on 08/11/2004 8:39:59 AM PDT by lillybet
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To: SandyInSeattle

"Their excuse? The skate park is "lame"."

lol...then it probably IS lame. Skaters love properly designed skate parks.


64 posted on 08/11/2004 8:40:42 AM PDT by monday
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Most cops are told not to talk to the media. And if you do the wrath of the Chief may befall you. Also, today it seems to me that Ward Cleaver has run off with a younger woman, doesn't pay his child support and has left his wife to raise his kids, who listen to obscene music, use obscene language and walk all over her.

So old June got together with other June's and petitioned their lawmakers to have "Daddy Government" come in and raise the little darlins.

Personally I'd rather be riding around eating sinkers and drinking bad coffee than raising other people's kids. But, that's why they pay me the big bucks.

65 posted on 08/11/2004 8:41:31 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: monday

Actually, you're probably right! They could have done a better job on it.


66 posted on 08/11/2004 8:44:41 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: All

We have skateboarders in my town including my son who's 12. He knows there are some skaters he's not allowed to run with and pretty much avoids them. The worst thing is all it takes is one rude skateboarder to give the rest of them a bad name. My son and his friends got in trouble with a local woman in charge of some public property because she said "a" skateboarder had busted a picnic table to make a ramp and she wanted someone to rat him out. My son told her it wasn't one of them but told me later he did know who did it but he sure wasn't going to tell her after they way she approached him.

Some skaters are bad and it does promote a culture of rebellion but I have found the majority of these boys to be nice to me if I actually smile first and ask ask them how they're doing or ask about their boards.


67 posted on 08/11/2004 8:46:00 AM PDT by gingerky
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To: Cap'n Crunch
So old June got together with other June's and petitioned their lawmakers to have "Daddy Government" come in and raise the little darlins.

Personally I'd rather be riding around eating sinkers and drinking bad coffee than raising other people's kids. But, that's why they pay me the big bucks.

A few things: true, I can understand why a cop wouldn't want to talk to the media, and I understand why this particular story made the front page of the Boston Herald. But you've got to admit, the Whitman force hasn't really issued an explanation as to why the cop in question acted the way he did. It would seem to any rational person that if they could, they would, so that they didn't makes it seem like they have something to hide.

I take it you are a cop. My beef isn't with cops per se; just cops who can't seem to use common sense. I'm a suburban guy, and here, or police forces seem to be made up of Rambo wanna-be hard guys who still need to feel like the baddest mother effers in the schoolyard.


68 posted on 08/11/2004 8:46:53 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
There is so much more to this story.

Michael Maxwell, Ryan's father, said he raced to court to pick up his son after he was told the boy would be held overnight if he did not arrive before 3:30 p.m.

I can't say that I was ever arrested. However, if I was, the first thing that my parents would have done is come and get me. The above statement implies that this guy's Dad had other things to do.

69 posted on 08/11/2004 8:51:52 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Well, I posted to eno in number 17 how these things seem to happen, at least that's how it works in my experience. Our old chief, a WWII veteran, was a great guy, but the media hated him. He wouldn't tell them anything. And he didn't want any of his officers talking to them at all. I sure miss him.

Anyway, that is my example. I'm not going to say there are not idiot cops because I know alot of idiot cops. But usually they eventually get fired or go to jail themselves. But in between they can create alot of problems for everybody else.

70 posted on 08/11/2004 8:53:05 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: eno_
I teach my kids to avoid police if at all possible. Do not talk to them, do not do anything that will bring you in contact with them. And NEVER EVER EVER volunteer ANY information to anyone associated with any level of government.

Boy, are you gonna get flamed for that statement. Well, I'll take some of that too as I gotta say that your sentiment is exactly how I live on a day-to-day basis, and how I've taught my kids as well. It is only prudent, with the millions of laws in existance today and the mindless folks they have enforcing them.

71 posted on 08/11/2004 8:53:54 AM PDT by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over and the Constitution is dead.)
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To: Arkinsaw

I had a guy who was a real jerk chasing me and my friends off for actually walking on the sidewalk past his house. He told us that it was his house, and his yard and that we couldn't be there.

I can't even imagine how many times, (and he went to bed early) Domino's showed up at his house at close to 12:30 with a pizza for him.

Eventually, one day, I was walking the sidewalk with my buddies and he came out and hit one of my friends with the broom. We left, but instead of taking it to the parents, I found a much better solution. My parents, in there infinite wisdom, decided a few months earlier to give me a chemistry set. Well, there was a formula for binding rubber (such as windshield wipers) to glass (such as windshields). I'm sure that you can imagine why he gave up on chasing us. It only took 5 windshields.

(I can recount this story because I was 15 at the time, and since I'm now 34, I'm sure the statue of limitations has expired. If not, it will only be a few more months...)

Paul


72 posted on 08/11/2004 9:07:41 AM PDT by spacewarp (Visit the American Patriot Party and stay a while. http://www.patriotparty.us)
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To: zeugma

It's been 25 posts... I wonder when the flaming will begin?


73 posted on 08/11/2004 9:11:39 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife
SSCPOWW...

POW? My ex was special forces and served in a group of five Special Forces that covertly rescued POWs aka "war criminals" in Vietnam. Very powerful nuances... Thanks for your family's most important sacrifices...

The school is asking for it, alright. But when the kids ask for it, we still have corporal discipline. If you DON'T want your kid to have this discipline, you sign the waiver, not the other way around.

Skateboading is fine but safety first, responsibilities second, and if you still have time, skateboard in designated areas and be respectful of other persons and property. (This is very good but reality bites!)

Broken bones, broken laws, and law suits predominate this issue...

Best to you, signed the mother of a skateboarding ADDICT!! ba7, kypd

ps "war criminals" was a dig on the Vietcong and Scary Kerry supporters... I think POWs are heroes!
74 posted on 08/11/2004 9:12:23 AM PDT by booann777 (USA, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!!)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

ohhh. i am sooo impressed with the big, strong officers...eradicting this menace to society and leaving the car-jackers, murderers and rapists alone...

duh.
The Capt.


75 posted on 08/11/2004 9:14:39 AM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: Cap'n Crunch; zeugma; eno_

Perhaps it's interesting that no one objects to eno's prudent cautionary stance in protection of his children vis a vis the authorities.

I know I did the same with my 5, one of whom was an ardent skater, 2 of whom were fast drivers, 5 of whom tried pot and mushrooms, ......

When authority becomes arbitrary and/or 'zero-tolerant, such discretion in dealing with the state is a key survival tool. I'm sure most parents here follow a similar practice.


76 posted on 08/11/2004 9:26:05 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: headsonpikes
Perhaps it's interesting that no one objects to eno's prudent cautionary stance in protection of his children vis a vis the authorities.

The reality is we live in the soft cage of surveillance. Many people know this is our reality. The ones in denial, and the enthusiastic conformists, are not articulate enough to come up with a response.

77 posted on 08/11/2004 9:37:59 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

bttt


78 posted on 08/11/2004 9:46:06 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: stainlessbanner

I would prefer my child be skateboarding in FRONT OF MY HOUSE than off in some skateboard park.


79 posted on 08/11/2004 9:56:24 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: eno_

Quite likely it is policy/SOP to restrain anyone transported. And imagine the blast of disrespect these officers got from a couple of pubescent brats when the tenor here, on a conservative news discussion fourm, is such.


80 posted on 08/11/2004 10:48:24 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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