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Kerry "Corrects Record," "Seared" Memory of Christmas in Cambodia Now "Mistaken Recollection"
Wednesday, August 11, 2004 | Kristinn

Posted on 08/11/2004 6:41:38 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: kristinn
He talked about a combat situation on Christmas Eve, 1968, which at one point he said occurred in Cambodia. He has since corrected the record to say it was someplace on a river near Cambodia and he is certain that at some point subsequent to that he was in Cambodia. My recollection, my understanding is he was not certain about that date.

He still wants to have it both ways. Kerry is incredi-BULL.
261 posted on 08/11/2004 11:10:00 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: TheSpottedOwl

My pleasure. Your son in law will come around eventually, glad he's seen through John Kerry. I got thinking the other day about how the "Iran-Contra" hearings helped tip Congress into Republican hands.

Nicaragua was to be abandoned to the wolves, according to the so-called Democrats in Congress who liked to think they controlled US foreign policy. From Jackson Browne to Johnny Carson, the entertainment industry empty cans criticized US opposition to the Sandinistas.

Eventually (after Frontline on PBS documented the Sandinista genocide campaign in the interior among other things, and after the Sandinistas realized they couldn't win) there were internationally observed elections in Nicaragua. The Sandinistas lost, and retired to their fortified estates (formerly of the Somozas). The rest of Central America's guerrilas were gradually starved out of existence or beaten to death, but slowly emerged from that state here and there (Chiapas, Columbia) during the Clinton years.


262 posted on 08/11/2004 11:10:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: kristinn
Mr. Johnson replied, "I believe he's corrected the record to say it was someplace near Cambodia, but he is not certain whether it was actually in Cambodia but he is certain that there was some point subsequent to that that he was in Cambodia."

Technically, this is a true statemnet because - as a senator - Kerry visited Cambodia several times.

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Cambodia's king praises U.S. presidential candidate Kerry

263 posted on 08/11/2004 11:11:13 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: Semi Civil Servant

Isn't that the truth!


264 posted on 08/11/2004 11:11:51 AM PDT by meema
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To: kristinn
"I believe he's corrected the record to say it was someplace near Cambodia, but he is not certain whether it was actually in Cambodia but he is certain that there was some point subsequent to that that he was in Cambodia."

Double-talking jive. He corrected the record? What, yesterday?
265 posted on 08/11/2004 11:12:58 AM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices

Kerry LIED, POWs DIED


266 posted on 08/11/2004 11:13:47 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: SunkenCiv
John F'n Kerry should have kept his mouth shut about his service and ran on his record in the Senate.

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On second thought, his lies service is all he has. I mean, marrying for money doesn't qualify one to lead the greatest country on Earth.

267 posted on 08/11/2004 11:15:22 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: Chaguito
Kerry LIED, POWs DIED

True. But the liberal media still thinks he's a saint, just like Ted "The Swimmer" Kennedy.

268 posted on 08/11/2004 11:17:58 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: tdadams
you're quite right, this is very "clintonian".

but being in cambodia subsequent to christmas, 1968, is just as much of an impossibiilty as being in cambodia ON christmas 1968.

269 posted on 08/11/2004 11:19:13 AM PDT by smonk
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To: kristinn

When exactly did Kerry correct the record on this? Yesterday?


270 posted on 08/11/2004 11:23:12 AM PDT by ShandaLear (The Kerry/Edwards Plan for Prosperity: Marry Well & Sue the Rich)
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To: All

Memo to the Kerry campaign and the old time media:
We may be partisan, but, we're not stupid.

If you want your head to spin like Linda Blair's in The Exorcist-try squaring the Chinese acrobat explanation by the Kerry camp vs all the interviews he has given over the years.

Kerry says he was ordered on many clandestine missions into Cambodia.
He was in Cambodia running ammo to anti communist forces in Cambodia.
He ran CIA operatives into Cambodia to search enemy encalves.
He was actually not in Cambodia, but, returned fire into the Cambodian side.
He was no where near Cambodia, but, 55 miles away in a firefight.
He was on base, writing in his diary.

It depends on what the meaning of Cambodia is.

The Note at abc.com:
"Last night, Kerry adviser Michael Meehan responded to the claims in an interview with ABC's Stu Chamberlain."

"The Mekong Delta consists of the border between Cambodia and Vietnam, so on Christmas Eve in 1968,
hr was in fact on patrol …
in the Mekong Delta between Cambodia and Vietnam.
He was ambushed, they fired back,
he was fired upon from both sides, from the Cambodian side and the Vietnam side during that day in 1968."

"What I've seen in this book is a bunch of people lying about John Kerry did.
John Kerry actually did command a boat in Vietnam, ran patrols along the border in the waters,
on behalf of the United States in 1968 and 1969."

"Was John Kerry in Cambodia during Christmas of 1968? If so, why does Doug Brinkley's sympathetic "Tour of Duty" recount what seems to be an entirely different incident?"

"The Cambodia incursion story is not included in Tour of Duty.
, Kerry replaces the story with a report about a mortar attack that occurred on Christmas Eve 1969 "near the Cambodia border"
in a town called Sa Dec, some fifty-five miles from the Cambodian border.

Somehow, Kerry's secret illegal mission to Cambodia, which he recounted on the floor of the U.S. Senate in 1986,
is now a firefight at Sa Dec and a Christmas day spent back at the base writing entries in his journal."

"We tried to reach Douglas Brinkley, the historian-author of "Tour of Duty," but he was vacationing and unavailable for comment."

Here's what he told the AP as late as 1992: "We were told, 'Just go up there and do your patrol.

Everybody was over there (in Cambodia).
Nobody thought twice about it,' Kerry said.
"One of the missions, which Kerry, at the time, was ordered not to discuss,
involved taking CIA operatives into Cambodia to search for enemy enclaves.
'I can remember wondering,
'If you're going to go, what happens to you,' Kerry said."

I found these from some blog links last night:

US News and World Report
Mission to Cambodia
by Kevin Whitelaw | May 08 '00

"Sen. John Kerry made his first forays into Cambodia during the Vietnam War as a Navy lieutenant on clandestine missions to deliver weapons to anticommunist forces."
" When he returned last week, the mission was official, but dicey nonetheless..."

Copyright, 1992. The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

By JOHN DIAMOND
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Navy Lt. John Kerry knew he had no business steering his Mekong River patrol boat across the border into Cambodia, but orders were orders.




271 posted on 08/11/2004 11:26:16 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Howlin

Um... Meehan needs to look at a map of Vietnam and Cambodia.

The Mekong river doesn't run parallel to the two countries, it crosses the border at almost a 90 degree angle. It's impossible for Cambodians to be firing from one side from Cambodia, and Vietnamese to be firing from the other, from inside Vietnam.


272 posted on 08/11/2004 11:28:43 AM PDT by TruBluKentuckian
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To: TruBluKentuckian

I just love this stuff, don't you?


273 posted on 08/11/2004 11:29:20 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: dirtboy

I knew I should have read the rest of the thread first... you beat me to it.


274 posted on 08/11/2004 11:30:01 AM PDT by TruBluKentuckian
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

If 55 miles from Cambodia as the crow flies,I wonder how many "river" miles that would be.


275 posted on 08/11/2004 11:32:47 AM PDT by Free Trapper (ALF & ELF - Future Bog People)
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To: kristinn

I have read so much about this in the last 24 hours, and I'm a bit confused. What would be the problem with Kerry being in Cambodia in 1968????? (I was not born yet, and I am NOT a Vietnam War history buff.) Is the only issue here that Kerry lied about the date of being in Cambodia? Is it also an issue that Kerry may or may not have been in Cambodia at all?????


276 posted on 08/11/2004 11:41:29 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
The one thing Kerry/Edwards has going for it is that the deluded Bush-haters will vote for K/E no matter what. My friend from work constantly harps on how many of "our boys" get killed in Iraq. He was doing that from day one of the liberation campaign. He said that "we" had to "get Bush outa there" (office) "or won't none of us have jobs." [sic]

One day we were standing in Sam's Club, waiting to pay for something at the tobacco counter, and he asked about some other item he was still looking for that we didn't find. I suggested Walmart. He said, "I don't go to Walmart." Why is that? "Because I'm a Democrat." You do know that Sam's is owned by Walmart, right? He hadn't known that. And he still shops there. And I haven't heard him say that one since.

Still at the counter, waiting, he said (for the 100-billionth) that he was voting for Kerry. "Kerry is my man. He'll get us out of Iraq right away." You do know he voted for the Iraq intervention? "I don't wanna hear that." Gotta love the guy. ;')

277 posted on 08/11/2004 11:44:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Howlin; OXENinFLA
JOHNSON: I believe he has corrected the record to say it was some place near Cambodia he is not certain whether it was in Cambodia but he is certain there was some point subsequent to that that he was in Cambodia

So now they are saying Kerry was in Cambodia .. just not on Christmas Eve of 1968????

278 posted on 08/11/2004 11:55:20 AM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: dirtboy
You know what really annoys me about the entire Kerry crew? They're really, REALLY bad liars. At least the Clintons made us work for our refutations. Refuting this bunch isn't even sporting.

It's like smacking at gnats, very easy to knock 'em down.

279 posted on 08/11/2004 11:58:16 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: SunkenCiv
My friend from work constantly harps on how many of "our boys" get killed in Iraq

If he's against innocent deaths, next time tell the doofus that there were 4,000 abortions today, almost 862,000 this year in the US. Get his priorities straight.

280 posted on 08/11/2004 11:59:35 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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