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To: JustPiper; Kinetic; Calpernia; freeperfromnj; jerseygirl; Cindy; nw_arizona_granny; MamaDearest; ...
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Hi everyone. Back from vacation. Had much fun. No news. No terrorism. No politics. Just much drinking, eating, sleeping, swimming, jet-skiing, and relaxing.

Back to work now. Only takes one day of work to get wound up again. Another project coming down the pipe so I won't be able to post as much.

Please keep me on your ping lists. I'll check in as time allows...
3,779 posted on 08/23/2004 11:54:46 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Threat Level: HIGH -- For a list of survival gear go to my FR Homepage.)
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To: appalachian_dweller

Welcome back!


3,781 posted on 08/23/2004 12:00:01 PM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: appalachian_dweller; jerseygirl; All

Adding a little clarification to rutless's post:


In the Cold War era, there were nuclear artillery shells, land mines, recoiless rifle rounds, pathfinder rockets, torpedoes, and lord knows what else.

When the .gov discussing securing nuclear weapons, most of the time they are talking about ballistic and guided missiles. The US spends a lot of money to make sure these things are being guarded, disassembled, or scrapped and some type of records are being kept.

As for the nuclear artillery shells, land mines, torpedos, etc, its anyones guess. I dont think they are as heavily guarded and accounted for as the missiles are, and I dont think Paul Williams has accounted for that in his book. It would be a lot easier for one of these to disappear from an unguarded warehouse at an abandoned military facility in the former USSR than any other type of nuclear weaponry.

A lot of people have "suitcase nukes" as their only frame of reference when discussing portable nuclear weapons, and they dont realize there are many types of miniaturized nuclear weapons that were developed during the Cold War.

About ten years ago, there was a lot of talk about unsecured nuclear weapons falling into the hands of the Russian Mafia, and I suspect something got out. IIRC, some Russian Mafia types were busted with nuclear materials about 1995 or so.

Thats my .02...


3,794 posted on 08/23/2004 1:02:11 PM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: appalachian_dweller

Sept. 11 Report Details Lax Immigration
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,129709,00.html

9/11 Report: Al-Qaeda in the U.S.
The 9/11 commission gives more details on the plot and its financing
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/23/al.quaeda.tm/index.html

Free Muslim Coalition: Al-Sadr Must be Eliminated Quickly and Decisively
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/0804/082004-freemuslims.htm


3,822 posted on 08/23/2004 6:46:21 PM PDT by JustPiper (I once had a pinglist a mile long....took me BumPING all day long)
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