It's not vet vs vet.
It's lie vs truth.
And beyond that, it's LIBERAL vs conservative.
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The VVA said it never endorses a candidate.Well, perhaps its time they did.
2 posted on
08/08/2004 12:06:34 PM PDT by
jwalsh07
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"It's not vet vs vet.
It's lie vs truth.
And beyond that, it's LIBERAL vs conservative."
Your are correct.
"IF" it can be housed in the "political" arena JFKerry wins again, however, what the press has not figured out yet is that for the Swift Vets and those who seek truth, this is not one of their "political" footballs they can toss back and forth.
JFKerry opened his campaign with the Viet Nam "reenactment" and this time the politicians and press are not giving orders.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Oh BS. My father was a Vietnam era vet (served in the Atlantic fleet) and he was welcomed by the VFW with open arms. And my memory of going to the VFW is that Vietnam vets were always around in large numbers at the functions.
Now, scumbags like Kerry these vets can't abide, but the smearing and slurring of American military men is the cause not that they served in Vietnam.
4 posted on
08/08/2004 12:08:39 PM PDT by
swilhelm73
(When Saddam Hussein ruled Iraq, his son murdered 2,000 people in the Abu Gharib prison in *one* day.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Interesting that it's not a debate about the Viet Nam War itself, but rather how folks conducted themselves during the war.
This is progress.
Kerry undoubtedly was of the impression all the criticism would come from the far left in the Democratic party, which would explain his efforts to totally suppress the left at the convention.
Surprise! There are plenty of guys out there who are quite willing to criticize his conduct in the war because they didn't like it when they saw it, nor the way he "went over to the enemy" after the war.
5 posted on
08/08/2004 12:09:49 PM PDT by
muawiyah
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Everyone get ready - the Dems are planning an assault on the Vets beginning 15 Aug - as their book will be relaesed. Again - John Kerry will slander them again - having the 'Brown Book', accusing them of crimes - AGAIN! Read up on www.crushkerry.com. kerry and his groonies will accuse them once again, that they committed worse crimes than he did. They also will smear the Vets with Credit History reports, med. records etc. I think the Vets need a good lawyer, and need to be informed about the upcoming on the all out assault. The NYT has already a copy of the Book....lets help the Vets.
6 posted on
08/08/2004 12:16:08 PM PDT by
Inge C
To: Cincinatus' Wife
May God damn Kerry to hell. I'm sorry for the language folks, but I watched this man tear the country apart in the 70's and here he is doing it again.
7 posted on
08/08/2004 12:18:08 PM PDT by
McGavin999
(If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
His cheapening of the medals is horrible...his later traitorous behavior in front of Congress as he slandered the GOOD soldiers/sailors/marines/airmen was even more atrocious.
He needs to stick his head in a toilet and flush.
9 posted on
08/08/2004 12:23:06 PM PDT by
bannie
(Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I had no idea I would be in the position I am now," said David Chung, a VVA member who said he returned from the war homeless. "A lot of people thought or hoped Vietnam would go away, but 30 years later it is at the center of things." I wish it would go away...don't tell me what you did 35 years ago, get in the 21st century and tell me what you're going to do.
10 posted on
08/08/2004 12:24:05 PM PDT by
JPJones
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Isn't this amazing? John Kerry is STILL causing pain and suffering to his fellow veterans.
Democratic candidate John Kerry, a founding member of the VVA, is making his Vietnam experience a key part of his campaign, partly to highlight that President George W. Bush avoided serving in Vietnam.
How does Kerry highlighting that Bush didn't go to Vietnam helping the VVA? Are the only ones allowed to joing those who actually served in Vietnam?
13 posted on
08/08/2004 12:30:10 PM PDT by
Howlin
(Saving Private Hamster)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Many veterans see parallels between the current war in Iraq and the one they fought in. The enemy uses guerrilla tactics, casualties are mounting and public opinion is wavering. ...and the press hates the president, the war, and the military, and is attacking all with the fervor of a rabid dog, causing any "wavering" in public opinion..
Funny how they left that part out.
15 posted on
08/08/2004 12:34:00 PM PDT by
Smokin' Joe
(Enemies you know. Beware those who come as friends, they know where to stick the knife.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
John Kerry : "war hero" or a "war criminal"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1186991/posts
Answer the question Kerry!
Did you lie about your "heroics" or the "war crimes"?
Can't have it both ways!
RELASE ALL YOUR MILITARY RECORDS BEFORE NOV 2nd!
Unless you are hiding something?
Are you?
To: Cincinatus' Wife
'"Back then, VFW, the American Legion really didnt want anything to do with us," said Tom Meinhardt of Michigan.'
If this is true, I just lost a lot of respect for both organizations and the WWII veterans running them at the time. Shame on them for leaving their fellow veterans out to dry. This just makes me mad.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
But the war has taken center stage again as both parties seek the support of Vietnam veterans - turning to them as the emerging elder statesmen among U.S. war veterans. Could a writer by more obtuse? Duh, this has nothing to do with the votes of Vietnam vets and everything to do with the fact that Kerry thought portraying himself as a war hero would push him up in the polls.
Well, to every Bush fan's delight, it has backfired. The vets who are exposing him for the cowardly, Jane Fonda-conspiring, nitwit that he was/is are going to destroy his political career. The whole thing is precious.
29 posted on
08/08/2004 2:07:11 PM PDT by
PLK
To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't agree that this is Liberal vs Conservative. I believe that some very liberal Vietnam Vets, hate Kerry for how he smeared their reputations.
A person can be for abortion, for homosexual marriage and for entitlement programs, but very much against Kerry!
30 posted on
08/08/2004 2:58:42 PM PDT by
tuckrdout
(I am here because abortion use to be illegal.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Vietnam vets dragged into political fight"
This is a totally erroneous title. Nobody dragged these Veterans into this fracas. In fact they did this voluntarily as they did when they served in the military and performed to the highest standards that most people of the United States expect of the members of our military.
It is principally the pimps of the election industry (led by the ambulance chasing friends of John Edwards) who are trying to deny them their Right of Free Speech! The magnitude of the storm is fueled by the major media who are trying to be "Soldiers" for the Democrap Party!
To: Cincinatus' Wife
If we keep the pressure on by not letting this story die it will "sink" the Kerry/Edwards ticket.
The people will not elect a fraud like John Kerry.
We need to continue to call and write the news media and talk radio. I am sending off three "Letters to the Editor" today.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Viet Nam is an issue, but it's far from being the most important issue facing the country, and it's diversionary by both parties to shift focus from much more serious issues.
Both parties are marching the country toward globalization, one political, one economic, but both costly to our country.
Both parties have strayed greatly from the intents of our Founding Fathers.
We are being marched into socialism and both parties have a hand in it.
The diversionary issues keep the focus away from what should be the number one issue, a return to Constitutional basics.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
De'ja vue!
1971 - Kerry returned from Nam, dragged soldiers and veterans through the mud to gain national prominence.
2004 - Kerry runs for President, drags veterans through the mud adain to gain glory votes for what he did in 1971.
ONLY IN AMERICA and, of course, if you are a liberal can you get away with lying, war crimes and still become President.
39 posted on
08/08/2004 5:18:32 PM PDT by
Toespi
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"This election is probably more important than any election for president since the Vietnam era," My a$$ it is, J efin' Kerry is diverting attention away from present concerns, for he KNOWS that Dubya is taking care of present day issues, and to generate a political fight against Dubya would be political suicide. Thus, we have Vietnam and the '60's all over again.
Is it working? Has anyone turned their mindset away from the WOT?
I think not.
41 posted on
08/08/2004 5:38:10 PM PDT by
EGPWS
To: adr3; Aeronaut; Alas Babylon!; Alissa; All-American Medic; ALOHA RONNIE; A Navy Vet; archy; ...
Our Vietnam veterans are going to save this country again. At home they will tell us how to support a war until it has been won, and overseas they will train our troops to fight a similar enemy. Thank you all.
44 posted on
08/08/2004 5:59:43 PM PDT by
risk
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