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To: F.J. Mitchell; cake_crumb

They blew communicating their message effectively.

They had to know that the mainstream media would come at them with everything they had, obfuscating their story and message. Freom what I saw of the talking heads on TV (the interviewed vets), they came off very unimpressively.

They seemed evasive, hemmed and hawed at the question of if they served on the same boat, and otherwise didn't look polished or impressive.

A big part of that was that the media was circling the wagons for Kerry. But that's no excuse. they should have been prepared for that, coached, and ready to make

Seemed like most just put on a sportcoat and their eyes widened when under combative questioning. It was amateur hour.

So yes, they are not communicating well, which compromises their message. "They are blowing it." Or if the die is cast, "They blew it."


100 posted on 08/08/2004 12:59:55 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY
You're referrring to "they". I've seen some interviews with some individual swift boat vets, but have not seen all of them give interviews. The interviews I saw and heard on the radio went quite well in general. The responses were brief and to the point. I did hear on on Hannity last week...O'Neal, I believe...who had been doing interviews on different networks all day long while the swift boat vits' site was under a DoS attack, and yeah, he sounded tired, stressed and emotionally exhausted.

If they "failed" with any message it is as instructors. The current crop of humanity appears to require a professor-surrogate to tell them what exactly they are supposed to think. All that I heard DID make clear things like "I didn't serve on his boat, but I DID serve in his unit" and that swift boats ran missions in groups, not singularly.

O'Dell was being interviewed on Fox and Friends the other morning. Rassman had apparantly been interviewed the night before and claimed O'Dell's memory of how Kerry won "the Silver Star" was flawed by time. O'Dell pointed out it was the Bronze Star, not the Silver Star. I thought that should raise questions as to WHO'S memory is is flawed.

Perhaps they should boil it down to a short soundbyte questionable action/award by Kerry and repeat it to the public at least once an hour. I can't think of any way they can be more "clear". And the media would never cooperate.

107 posted on 08/08/2004 1:11:31 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: HitmanNY

If we put ourselves into the shoes of these Swift Boat Vets, just everyday citizens like us, except for their tour in Vietnam, trying to reveal the truth about Kerry to the rest of us, via a hostile pro-Kerry media, that grills them as though they were terrorists-we'll understand their seeming ineptness. It is the intent of the liberal loving, Kerry idolizing media, to humiliate these genuine heroes and convince us that they are the bad guys -that just isn't so.

Wake up America! These Swiftboat Vets,have long ago suffered more than their share of pain and frustration, served up by the likes of Kerry, Hanoi Jane, the liberal media, and the liberal Democrats. Nothing more than Patriotism,devotion to duty and the sure knowledge that a Kerry Presidency would be a disastor for America, could have caused these gallent men to stand up for truth once again, despite being aware that the inflictors of their past pain, were sure to assault them again.

Those who believe Kerry's goon squad over the Swift Vets, are just not very swift.


117 posted on 08/08/2004 1:46:13 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (John (Frank Burns) Kerry and his mate, Teresa (haughty lips) Hooliheinz,reporting for snooty...duty)
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To: HitmanNY
Seemed like most just put on a sportcoat and their eyes widened when under combative questioning. It was amateur hour.

Maybe that was because they ARE rank amateurs instead of polished, professional media p###ants who have had years of experience at destroying the credibility of anyone who would dare challenge the veracity and qualifications of someone they have annointed for public office.

I would be less inclined to believe the Swifty vets if after 35 years all their stories matched exactly and they all remembered everything about their wartime experiences down to the smallest details. I believe these were men who came home from a war and resumed their lives as normal Americans, instead of hatching a scheme to create political viability and then run for high political offices.

The bitter, angry, hate-driven leftists know their man will take a heavy hit if the voters believe the Swift boat vets, and they will do anything, and I mean ANYTHING, to discredit them and destroy their credibility. FWIW I believe them. Nobody made them open themselves up to the hateful, vicious attacks they will be subjected to in the coming days. I believe they did so because they care about their country and about what it would become under a Kerry administration. If they come across as everyday normal Americans who aren't comfortable under fire from hostile left wing media whores, that only gives me more reason to believe they are authentic and their allegations are true.

137 posted on 08/08/2004 2:34:08 PM PDT by epow
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