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Celebrity vote effort may be a futile one
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 08/08/04 | Damien Cave

Posted on 08/08/2004 8:27:34 AM PDT by SandRat

Bruce Springsteen has proved that he can get fans in a sold-out stadium to sing along with "Born to Run," but can he help John Kerry win the White House?

This is a question that many are trying to answer now that the Boss, Dave Matthews, Pearl Jam, R.E.M. and several other bands have announced that they will play more than 30 concerts in nine swing states in October.

The proceeds will go to a new Democratic political action committee, Vote for Change, and the goal, Springsteen wrote last week in a New York Times Op-Ed article, "is to change the direction of the government and change the current administration come November."

Political scientists and strategists say that celebrities are most effective as fund-raisers, not as vote-getters.

Fans, in fact, rarely want to hear political sermons from celebrities whose salaries and lifestyle put them outside the mainstream, says Darrell West, a political science professor at Brown University and the author of "Celebrity Politics."

In many cases, it's a matter of credibility. "Voters aren't used to celebrities giving political speeches so it's harder for them to be taken seriously in that role," West says. "We see them as entertainers."

Swing voters - the concerts' target audience - may be especially hard to win over with celebrity politicking. Polls show that the registered independents recoil at negative campaigning, and famous stars are often flashpoints for controversy.

The celebrities are often more caustic, or obscene, in their criticism, and conservatives rarely give them a pass. This year, the Bush-Cheney campaign has been particularly good at turning liberal partisan humor - from the mouths of Howard Stern and Whoopi Goldberg - into a talking point about the left's "hate-filled" mentality. In such an environment, Springsteen, Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder and other musicians will have to avoid comments that appeal to a raucous crowd of 50,000 in Cleveland but not to the million-plus viewers of Fox News.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boss; davematthews; democrat; lefties; pearljam; rem; shutupandsing; springsteen
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1 posted on 08/08/2004 8:27:35 AM PDT by SandRat
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...

Hollywonk Piong sour note.


2 posted on 08/08/2004 8:28:35 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Fans, in fact, rarely want to hear political sermons from celebrities whose salaries and lifestyle put them outside the mainstream,

Like Kerry and Edwards. Ching ching $$$$$.

3 posted on 08/08/2004 8:31:08 AM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: SandRat

I always look to my favorite drug-filled veneral ridden atheistic liberal rock band for guidance on how I should raise my children, make moral decisions and vote in presidential elections. Heck, doesn't everybody?
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sarcasm/off


4 posted on 08/08/2004 8:31:18 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: SandRat
I think this push by the media elite will be rather unproductive. I mean I ten to doubt that the majority of the folks that there message will be going out to will be going to the polls.
5 posted on 08/08/2004 8:31:58 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukaks")
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To: SandRat

The drugged out hate America types who pay to hear these insults about America and GW are in the camp of Rat voters, or many don't vote. They will cheer the vile hatred, get drunk and stoned and repeat the D&S procedure.

What the Whoopis and other Follywood idiots do is to make us more broken glass voters and to help drive away the good moderate voters.


6 posted on 08/08/2004 8:32:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Franchurian Dork Candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri says, "Judge me by my record".. We will!!.)
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To: SandRat
Howard Stern and Whoopi (Karen Brown)are the heart and soul of America?

If a circus side show is considered America.

Clinton's Cabinet looked like a circus side show!

7 posted on 08/08/2004 8:39:15 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: SandRat

This tour will mostly draw the same crowd as michael morron F 9/11 film - strictly those already leaning towards F'ing kerry.


8 posted on 08/08/2004 8:44:46 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The dumbocRATs have their heads buried in the sand.)
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To: BipolarBob
I think I speak for many here when I say that I'm going to vote however Rip Taylor tells me to.
 

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"


9 posted on 08/08/2004 8:45:17 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (Winner of the Ron Ridenhour Award for Truth-Telling)
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To: SandRat
The proceeds will go to a new Democratic political action committee, Vote for Change,

This is interesting. In other articles, they have said that the proceeds were going to the Americans Coming Together PAC. This little faux pas raises the question of where the money is really going. Is Springsteen misleading the press to get free publicity for one last tour since he is mostly Sept. 10, anymore? Are the proceeds really going to ANY PAC or is Springsteen pocketing the money? Did the reporter get the story wrong? Somebody needs to follow up and see what Springsteen really does with the proceeds from these concerts.
10 posted on 08/08/2004 8:45:22 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: SandRat
< sarcasm >

Having celebrity status due to singing, acting or performing in the entertainment industry in some capacity definitely elevates your opinion above that of the lowly masses. I don't know why some folks don't understand that.

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11 posted on 08/08/2004 8:50:38 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: SandRat
"Voters aren't used to celebrities giving political speeches so it's harder for them to be taken seriously in that role," West says. "We see them as entertainers."

Gee, I wonder why. But I was over at DU the other day and a woman there was explaining that she fired the termite exterminator who came to her house who rambled on about supporting the Republicans.

She was right, she hired an exterminator not someone to give political commentary. That wasn't part of the price. I feel the same way about entertainers and singers. I'm paying you for entertainment, not political commentary.

12 posted on 08/08/2004 8:50:53 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Owl_Eagle
I think I speak for many here when I say that I'm going to vote however Rip Taylor tells me to.

Sadly there are probably some people who influenced by the politics of Madonna or Ben Aflac. But I strongly suspect they don't put voting high on their list of priorities.

13 posted on 08/08/2004 8:54:49 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: SandRat

14 posted on 08/08/2004 8:58:53 AM PDT by Boazo (LOSE THE TAG LINE)
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To: SandRat
Polls show that the registered independents recoil at negative campaigning

I beg to differ. Every election this statement about negative campaigning comes out and ever time there are promises to avoid it. It never happens. The reason is negative campaigning works. Also one can not help but notice that when Dems do it is seen by the press as standing for the truth. When conservatives go negative it's because we are hate mongers.

15 posted on 08/08/2004 9:05:48 AM PDT by foolscap
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To: SandRat

When an entertainer becomes irritating rather than entertaining, you fire them.


16 posted on 08/08/2004 9:07:26 AM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: BunnySlippers
Sadly there are probably some people who influenced by the politics of Madonna or Ben Aflac. But I strongly suspect they don't put voting high on their list of priorities.

Most aren't old enough to vote.

17 posted on 08/08/2004 9:08:27 AM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Boazo
Let's blacklist the people in that photo, just for a little historical fun!
The government didn't hold those Hollywood communist trials for nothing!
18 posted on 08/08/2004 9:10:01 AM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: SandRat
I Hate The USA by Bruce Sprinstunkaryne
19 posted on 08/08/2004 9:15:34 AM PDT by Boazo (LOSE THE TAG LINE)
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To: SandRat
We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

20 posted on 08/08/2004 9:16:30 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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