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A cry in the black education wilderness
1 posted on 08/08/2004 3:05:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

She needs to go to a school where she will be wanted.


2 posted on 08/08/2004 3:08:15 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From my experience in school as well as what I read of John (Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols) Lydon's own upbringing (and days as a teacher before he had a band), it sounds like it is more related to peer group or economics than race.

Kids who don't want to put forth the effort or just don't do as well in classes rag on those who do well. If one of their friends starts to move in a trajectory that will put them on a road to success, the peers will try to pull him/her down. If those people aren't happy for your success, then they aren't your friends.

At the other extreme, "brains" or "preps" can be fiercely competative in out performing their peers. If there is a drawback among this group, it is that they can be similar to workaholics.

4 posted on 08/08/2004 3:19:28 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is a shame the NAALCP doesn't address this crap. Instaed they worry about a flag in SC.


8 posted on 08/08/2004 3:33:31 AM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Shut up and sing. I don't care what you think.)
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10 posted on 08/08/2004 3:51:11 AM PDT by Born Conservative (“Consensus is the negation of leadership.” – Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I get a really bad feeling when I see people who are suddenly realize that they are being culturally defined despite their opinion and attitude about that particular culture.

This woman's situation is a small example of it, but we all know it goes much further.

I mean, she's seeing it at a deeply personal level, via her everyday interaction with friends, but it's also the fact that there are people who will group her, categorize her and basically attempt to stamp her with a particular type of "minority status" that will impact many aspects of her life outside of her personal friendships. It may be helpful, but nothing comes for free. The same programs that are allegedly set up to benefit her may, to some extent limit her future as well.

We've seen recently in California that black families are unable to get "testing" for the children in Public school to determine if they need particular attention so that they can obtain help and focus on specific aspects of their education. Such tests have been deemed "Racist and unfair" because liberals believe it is unfairly biased against blacks to begin with. So as a result, these black families are excluded from such aid because of their race. This is the very thing that such benefits were designed to avoid.

It's a very sad situation with no immediate solution. Even more sad, if someone was able to promote a solution, it would be met by the same liberal crowd as being biased and unfair to one group or another, and most likely this would effectively eliminate that group from ever obtaining the aid it may need.

People are waking up and realizing the confinement of such programs and that they are as much an inhibition as they are a help.

And I tell you, I dread this sort of thinking. My children are Americans, but one look will tell you they're mixed race and by their looks alone could easily be grouped into like situations by those impaired by racial bias on behalf of the left.

If we just sat back, the left would implement segregation all over again with each particular group receiving a different level of social acceptance and service. By "coincidence" those groups would probably translate directly in their equivalent voting block.

People are so unfamiliar with the real history surrounding the rat party. They stood against the "Equal Rights Act" in the 60's, with Al Gore's father being one of it's greatest opponents. It was the Republican party that freed the slaves. It's conservatives now who try to view all people through God's eyes and attempt to open society to mimic his view of all men being equal.

You just won't here that from the left. They use code words like "Fair" and attempt to justify confiscatory public policies by promoting certain groups as being too pathetic to comply to normal standards for social performance. The damage they end up doing is heinous and unspeakable.

This, plus even if we were to raise a voice of protest, that voice would be condemned as "racist" regardless of whatever the message might be.

I wish I had a solution, but the only thought I have is that the left must be defeated at all costs. Anyway, so much for my rant...

11 posted on 08/08/2004 3:55:36 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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When the people who should be complimenting and congratulating you on your accomplishments are treating you as if you sell drugs, it doesn't feel as if you are doing the right thing.

It may be comforting for this black female to know the same feeling happens to white female teachers should the teacher publicly support a GOP leader in education like Gov Bush. Politics in education is not going away anytime soon. And, it is fortunate that conservatives have continued to raise their voices against that, because the other side never will.
12 posted on 08/08/2004 3:59:05 AM PDT by summer
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This girl is gonna do just fine! God bless her.


13 posted on 08/08/2004 4:00:44 AM PDT by cabojoe
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm looking for a place...where being "young, gifted and black" works for me and not against me.

I think you need only wait until you apply to colleges and for scholarships to those colleges.

When you see how much money you are going to be offered, then you'll get to see what the icy stares of white people look like ;-)

24 posted on 08/08/2004 5:04:45 AM PDT by krb
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This happens in the hills as well. When my wife went to college, her cousins accused her of "getting above her raisings".


30 posted on 08/08/2004 5:25:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Looks like she's bucking Sharpton and Jackson. Bravo for her!

Wonder if Condi Rice has had any impact on her and other young, black women?


35 posted on 08/08/2004 5:29:39 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Designate - Infiltrate - Annihilate // Read my lips: More new taxes - John Kerry)
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I would really like to see what these other students will be 10 or so years from now.

My experience is that they're either dead, on drugs, dealing drugs, criminals, in jail, have umpteen children with no husband, on welfare, or just plain old bums and ne'er-do-wells.

Then the ironic thing is that these very same people demand that "you give back to the neighborhood", when they see that you've made something out of yourself.

44 posted on 08/08/2004 5:40:53 AM PDT by PallMal
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Now, I admit that I could switch places with any member of *NSync, a late-'90s boy band, and perform a concert, and the fans wouldn't notice. But that doesn't make me an Oreo.

NKOTB is the boy band more appropriate for an article on Oreos:

The White Stuff, Weird Al Yankovic

The first one was a sweet one
Second one was a blast
Soon I finished off the bag, ate 'em up real fast
You can see 'em in my teeth
Tell it when I talk
Had so many my pancreas just went into shock

I love the white stuff, baby
In the middle of an Oreo
I love the white stuff, baby
It's the most delicious thing I know

I've had a zillion or two
In my life, they're so right
My teeth are all rotted clear through But who cares? What else am I supposed to do?

Oh OH OH-OH-Oh, Oh Oreo
Oh OH OH-OH-Oh, the white stuff
Oh OH OH-OH-Oh, Oh Oreo
What's in the middle? The white stuff

The first time that I tried it
Got a big sugar buzz
Nothing gets me high as that sandwhich cookie does
But I love the filling most
I rub it on my roast
Mix it in with my coffee and spread it on my toast

I love the white stuff, baby
In the middle of an Oreo
I love the white stuff, baby
Take some with me everywhere I go

Might get a pimple or two
Well, so what? It's all right
Now Twinkies and Ding Dongs won't do
All I need... You know what it is

Oh OH OH-OH-Oh, Oh Oreo
Oh OH OH-OH-Oh, the white stuff
Oh OH OH-OH-Oh, Oh Oreo
Oh OH OH-OH-Oh, the white stuff
Oh OH OH-OH-Oh, Oh Oreo
What's in the middle? The white stuff

49 posted on 08/08/2004 5:45:37 AM PDT by Sloth (John Kerry: Frank Burns with Charles Winchester's pedigree.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Poor kid. It's tough surviving all the social garbage in schools these days. But this will get her through:
I was raised to respect my education and the fact that I am blessed to have an opportunity that others before me didn't have.
56 posted on 08/08/2004 6:27:25 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good article.

And one of the leading race opressors is Jesse "Stay out' 'da Bushes'" Jackson.


71 posted on 08/08/2004 10:34:56 AM PDT by SerpentDove (November 2004: Win One for the Gipper.)
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Oreos....arrrlll...

78 posted on 08/08/2004 11:24:29 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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There are 500 CEO's of Fortune 500 companies. Even if all of them are white, the majority of whites will never be CEO's of Fortune 500 companies, if my arithmetic is correct.

I don't follow her references to *NSync. I assume it is a band. What kind?

83 posted on 08/08/2004 12:34:53 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I care about school. Does that make me an Oreo?

What that makes you is one smart cookie :-)


89 posted on 08/08/2004 2:35:28 PM PDT by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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