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Author sees need for profiling (Michelle Malkin NW Visit)
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Posted on 08/07/2004 11:01:10 PM PDT by SeattleNeedsHelp

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1 posted on 08/07/2004 11:01:11 PM PDT by SeattleNeedsHelp
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But Frank Kitamoto, president of the Bainbridge Island Japanese American Community who was in an internment camp at age 2½ , said Malkin's assertions can never excuse the internment.

"Even if it was true, even if there were 100 [spies], there was, by the Bill of Rights, no reason to lock up a hundred thousand people," he said. "When Oklahoma City happened, they should have arrested all Caucasian males by that logic."

Ah, but if you read Jayna Davis's writing you will be led to believe, as I do, that Arabs were involved in the Oklahoma City bombing.


2 posted on 08/07/2004 11:12:28 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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Those on the left who want to use political correctness to hamstring profiling should dread a second attack from the Jihadists. The morning after the next 9-11 the gloves will be off.
3 posted on 08/07/2004 11:13:48 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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When naysayers challenged her thinking, many in the crowd applauded to cut them off, or repeatedly shouted "Ask the question!" when critics tried to offer a counterpoint.

Completely inaccurate. I was there.

4 posted on 08/07/2004 11:15:05 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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Just read the reviews on Amazon. By the response from the Left (who you know haven't read it, and probably can't read) I ordering a copy.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0895260514/ref=cm_rev_prev/103-0755033-8595813?%5Fencoding=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155&customer-reviews.start=1&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER


5 posted on 08/07/2004 11:22:39 PM PDT by SeattleNeedsHelp
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I have to disagree with Michelle on this one.


6 posted on 08/07/2004 11:44:22 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Where’s my fu©king balloons?!)
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It is a GREAT book. You won't regret picking it up.


8 posted on 08/07/2004 11:51:32 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

A lot of people feel the way you do.

Interestingly, Malkin herself once found the internment of Japanese in WWII "abhorrent". When she received a flurry of letters from WWII vets asking her to investigate the issue before making up her mind, she did that. She read a book about the MAGIC intercepts.

Her mind was changed.

That is the essence of the book. She doesn't call for the internment of Arabs or Muslims. She is simply saying that we should not be so paralyzed by political correctness in the War on Terror that we put that political correctness before our nation's survival - and that is what is happening out there.

People use the internment of Japanese to make the case that we shouldn't profile our current enemy.

That could be our undoing.

Will it be worth it?


9 posted on 08/07/2004 11:55:13 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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Michelle is an incredibly courageous young woman, and a true patriot. Like her grandfather who marched alongside the Americans he fought with in the Bataan death march, she is willing to endure the most hateful and viscious attacks from the enemy to make a stand for liberty.

Her new book undermines one of the great myths constructed by the left in the past three decades. Needless to say, they're livid.


10 posted on 08/08/2004 12:05:33 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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Her grandfather was on the Bataan peninsula in WWII? Wow.


11 posted on 08/08/2004 12:09:06 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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"When Oklahoma City happened, they should have arrested all Caucasian males by that logic."

Sophistry. If Caucasian males declared war on all Americans, had a long history of killing Americans just for being American, and a large network of them crashed passenger jets into buildings in order to kill as many people as possible, that might be an issue. But that's not what's happening.

12 posted on 08/08/2004 12:10:33 AM PDT by Dave Olson
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When naysayers challenged her thinking, many in the crowd applauded to cut them off, or repeatedly shouted "Ask the question!" when critics tried to offer a counterpoint.

Yes, we did cut them off because it was not a debate and they were not the featured speaker. It was a Q & A. The author made her presentation and then she stayed to answer a few questions. If they would have presented their objections in a question form they would not have been cut off.

13 posted on 08/08/2004 12:17:02 AM PDT by ethical
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Not to mention that one of the guys who was "cut off" (after preaching a lot of ridiculous comparisons of WWII Japanese to Jesus and his followers) refused to give the microphone back to the host, and tried to physically escape his grasp.

No mention of that little stunt in this piece.

I hate the media.


14 posted on 08/08/2004 12:20:19 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

You say this now. If a repeat of 9/11 or worse happens, you'll be thinking differently.


15 posted on 08/08/2004 12:23:46 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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I was there for the talk and some of the question period. I came away with a respect for Michelle's investigative skills but quite unconvinced that the unquestionable presence of Japanese intelligence activities justified the subsequent steps that were taken against the number of people affected. But it wasn't as cut-and-dried as histories on the topic present it, and bravo to Malkin for saying so.

Her case defending internment rested on the vulnerability of yet-uncommitted civilians to be swayed by the influences of consanguinity and common culture to betray their adopted country, as some demonstably did, her evidence in that regard being, IMHO, persuasive, and consisting of postwar testimony and MAGIC decrypts that were only declassified in 1977. A second theme was that in time of war, where the existence of the state is threatened, civil liberties are not an absolute value, but must be balanced against the survival of the state charged with guaranteeing them. Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus was one such example.

Where I demur is that the survival of the state is not threatened, or at least not to a credible degree, with respect to radical Islam. Moreover, we are not in a state of declared war, which may be not much more than a legal nicety - 2750 dead New Yorkers would attest to that - but is still, to my mind, a cogent objection. And Malkin recognizes that the parallel is incomplete. She does not recommend the internment of Middle Eastern males, for example, only the use of profiling to increase surveillance of those presenting other reasons for suspicion, such as flight lessons that omit the superfluities of learning to land. Thus far I also agree with her.

In all, a wonderful, thought-provoking presentation. I am definitely going to purchase the book.

16 posted on 08/08/2004 12:27:27 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Yes. She mentioned it in passing on an entry at her blog site. She's not afraid to take on the sleazy popular culture, either.


17 posted on 08/08/2004 12:30:57 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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I hate that analogy too. It's so incredibly flawed.


18 posted on 08/08/2004 12:44:46 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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Someone should be monitoring that comment board. Most of those comments aren't thoughtful at all.


19 posted on 08/08/2004 12:56:12 AM PDT by cyborg
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One of the huge fabrications of the left about internment is the pretense that only the Japanese were interned. This is not true. Germans were also interned. Only the Japanese were paid for the experience..

One thing that is also never mentioned, is the grave concerns posed by the Japanese was dual citizenship. Even though they may have become naturalized citizens, they did not surrender their citizenship to Japan.


20 posted on 08/08/2004 2:36:43 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Kerry/Edwards. A pig in a dress is still a pig.)
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