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Keyes' candidacy will expose rift within GOP
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | 08/07/2004 | Kevin McDermott

Posted on 08/07/2004 7:24:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58

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To: EternalVigilance

They are, but they won't admit it. Still, I think these types of folks are few and far between in the Republican party--I've never seen such Republican liberalism on display beyond the bounds of FR.

Not sure if you saw #607, but check out #620 and #621 for a summary. This is the kind of leftist mindset we're dealing with.

Go, Keyes, go!! :-)


661 posted on 08/10/2004 12:01:14 AM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: BackInBlack

The benefit that is good though is he will be heard and his arguments will make people think and question things.

There is nothing but an upside with Keyes being there.
He is a fantastic person and will keep his Democrat opponent at home instead of campaigning elsewhere.


662 posted on 08/10/2004 12:07:48 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

And then I looked at his record, and what did I find?

[laughter]

I found, wait, I found somebody who, as we would expect from the kind of liberalism he professes, has never seen a spending bill he couldn't find some excuse for, and has never seen a tax increase he didn't like.

We find somebody who, in the tradition of a lot of the liberals, would rather that our children were educated in schools controlled by impersonal bureaucracy than in schools under the influence and control of the parents who love them and care about their future.

[cheering, applause]

I found someone who appears to believe that even when a criminal has entered into the sacred precinct of your home with intentions you couldn't possibly fathom, you don't have the right to defend your life and the lives of the people in your family!

[cheering, applause]

And as you might expect in someone who won't defend the right of citizens under the Second Amendment to defend themselves, he doesn't seem to understand the necessity that when terrorists that when terrorists and others come against the people of this country, the President of the United States does not have the right to neglect intelligence that suggests there are threats and dangers to the American people!

[cheering, applause]

And I'll tell you clearly and unequivocally. By the time I got through those parts of his record, I was absolutely convinced that SOMEBODY had to run against Barack Obama!

[cheering applause]

But I'll also tell you quite clearly and unequivocally that if those had been the only points of difference between us, it would not have been me!

[laughter]

What finally caught my eye, however, and what we have to spend some time thinking through so that we will understand, not just the significance of the decision I have taken, but the significance of this election overall, what we have to look at is what finally arrested my attention and forced me to consider whether I not only had the opportunity to oppose him, but the obligation.

And that was when I learned that he had actually, in April 2002, apparently cast a vote that would continue to allow live birth abortions in the state of Illinois.

[crowd: "Boo!"]

Now, wait a minute. And we have to understand. I hope everyone here will understand what I'm talking about. We are talking about a situation in which, in the course of an abortion procedure, a child has been born alive--is out of the womb, breathing and living on its own--and he cast a vote against the idea that we should not stand by and let that child die!



This is what liberals fear. This type of firepower. AND this is what the Media loves to start up, controversy. Heck Keyes is gonna get so much media, Micheal Moore will get jealous and get involved and get his butt smashed too.

I hope God and the GOP help Keyes cause Keyes will be the keyesofdeath for the obamites.


663 posted on 08/10/2004 12:16:15 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: k2blader

I saw that.

Lots of exposing going on all over the place.

Amazing how libs melt under the light of bold truthtelling.


664 posted on 08/10/2004 12:17:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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To: TomasUSMC

POWERFUL, thanks I enjoyed that.


665 posted on 08/10/2004 12:19:48 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: technochick99

If you could care less and the FRN is not on your radar, then why do you continue to have that tagline?


666 posted on 08/10/2004 7:32:44 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: BackInBlack
These are the same things we must teach to liberals everywhere, every color, creed, religion, sexual orientation, etc, etc.....

It's a big job but we must do it!

667 posted on 08/10/2004 10:52:27 AM PDT by cfrels
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To: PaleoPal

The very first words out of Hannity's mouth on Monday were "Alan Keyes"...he interviewed him leading off the third hour and again on H&C that night.


668 posted on 08/10/2004 9:03:30 PM PDT by WillRain
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To: TBP

This article has no(ZERO) quotes from Gillespie. It has 3 snippits "fiscal responsibility" - "a slower rate of growth" - "Those questions have been decided,"


669 posted on 08/10/2004 9:12:56 PM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: davidjquackenbush

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670 posted on 08/10/2004 9:13:58 PM PDT by WillRain
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To: TBP

I am unable to follow the link you have provided so I do not know if there is more to this article. However the article you posted has no(ZERO) quotes from Gillespie.


671 posted on 08/10/2004 9:15:26 PM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: TBP
Gillespie is quoted in the two Union-Leader articles. His quots make it very clear that in his view there is no place for limited-government conservatism in the GOP.

Really? "fiscal responsibility" - "a slower rate of growth" - "Those questions have been decided," is "very clear?" I don't think you read very critically.

672 posted on 08/10/2004 9:23:40 PM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: TBP

at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/08/10/do1002.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2004/08/10/ixop.html you will find an article by Mark Steyn.

In this article he quotes Sen. Kerry.

"I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared – seared – in me."

and further...

"I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."

and further...

"the war that I fought in was a war where we saw America lose its support for the war, where the soldiers came back having had to do what our soldiers are doing today, carry an M-16 in another country, try to tell the difference between friend and foe. I know what it's like to go out at night on patrol",

and further...

"Visions of sugarplums really do dance through your head and you think of stockings and snow and roast chestnuts and fires with birch logs and all that is good and warm and real. It's Christmas Eve."


and still further with a quote from a different source than Kerry...

"Navy Lt John Kerry knew he had no business steering his Mekong River patrol boat across the border into Cambodia, but orders were orders… By Christmas 1968, part of Kerry's patrol extended across the border of South Vietnam into Cambodia."


These are all quotes that tell you something. "Fiscal responsibility" or "a slower rate of growth" don't tell you squat.

Sun Tsu wrote "1 Measurement; 2 Estimation of quantity; 3 Calculation; 4 Balancing of chances; 5 Victory." You should try to work on #2 a bit more.


673 posted on 08/11/2004 9:44:32 PM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: Joy Angela

When that fateful day comes, I may even vote straight-ticket Republican.


674 posted on 08/14/2004 2:50:20 PM PDT by The Libertarian Dude ("I own my body. It does not belong to the government." - Walter E. Williams)
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