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1 posted on 08/06/2004 3:55:06 PM PDT by Mini-14
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To: Mini-14
Don't you love farce?
My fault I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want.
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns.
Don't bother, they're here.
2 posted on 08/06/2004 4:01:29 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Mini-14

I'm planning to be there.


9 posted on 08/06/2004 5:03:07 PM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: Mini-14

Nice. I just prayed that he gets a senate seat!
In future run for president (probably against Hillary),
I'll support him then too.


11 posted on 08/06/2004 5:04:42 PM PDT by veracious
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To: Mini-14
Is there a Illinios chapter that should know about this..?

Godspeed Alan!

21 posted on 08/06/2004 6:27:41 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Mini-14

So, how about a little stratagizing?

Keyes heavily emphasizes the grassroots, and it has been show to work in other places to great effect (Oklahoma, Pennsylvania) in this cycle. So, given that there are many of us outside Illinois who feel we want to contribute to this effort, what can we do (besides donation)?

Well, looking at the map of the 2000 presidential results, I find that there are only fifteen, out of 101 counties, in which Gore won by more than 5%.

As it happens, these are mostly clustered in counties near the state borders.

So, do you live in Iowa, or Northern Missouri or Southern Minnesota and want to put feet to your sympathies?
The Davenport area needs work.

Missouri? Cross the river at St. Louis and you'll find lots of work.

Kentucky? Several counties in Southern Illinois need work.

Northern Indiana, Wisconsin? Cook County.

Now, I'm no campaign expert by any remote stretch, but it seems logical to me that if there were alot of grassroots workers in these other areas, then the campaign would be free to invest what limited resources they obtain in heavily working Cook county to try to cut down the margin there.

Gore won Cook by 41% was time and without it, he lost the state pretty clearly. If grassroots activism can switch all the close counties, and cut the margins in those areas I mentioned (which I think is doable) then the thing rests on whether the margin in Cook can be cut to something like 30% - which, frankly, I doubt - then you ought to be in the ballpark of a upset.

The sad truth is that he could, with 22,000 strategical placed votes, win every other county in Illinois and if he doesn't cut into that Cook County lead, he'd still lose by half a million votes.

So the grassroots has to deliver BETTER results in the Bush counties, closer margins if not wins in the Gore counties (some won by a very small margin) and free up the campaign to concentrate on Cook. Pick up 35,000 more votes than Bush in the rest of the state at least.

Then it will still take a miracle for Keyes to add the 250K he'll have to pick up in Cook, it'll mean cutting that 41% margin to about 14%.

But hey - never say never. There exceedingly long odds, but there not as long as the odds he ran against in 2000.

Good to know there are so many folks who dream the dream in any case.

One final thought - what would be the chance of importing a campaign rainmaker like Ralph Reed to run this thing? Surely at least the National party can arrange something like that?


48 posted on 08/07/2004 1:18:51 AM PDT by WillRain
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To: Mini-14; Right_Handed_Writer

Two of us from The ThreatMatrix Thread will be there!


49 posted on 08/07/2004 2:39:55 AM PDT by JustPiper ("Ultimately, this war against terror … depends on the eyes and ears of the people of America Pataki)
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To: Mini-14

Is this a rally where anybody can show up to give support to Alan Keyes? If so, I just might attend.


56 posted on 08/07/2004 6:34:51 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Mini-14; Gelato

"COLMES: Can you tell me what George W. Bush has done that's good for the African American community?
KEYES: I think the most important thing that G. W. Bush has done is what he's done that's good for America: he has stood against this country's enemies. I don't remember on September the 12th that we counted the bodies in terms of who was black and who was white. Thank God that day we remembered that we were all of us Americans--and G. W. Bush has been a president standing against that evil for the sake of all Americans, and that's what I think people will appreciate.

http://renewamerica.us/archives/media/interviews/04_07_12hc.htm"

This is the kind of common sense reasoning folks from Illinois and all America need to hear. It is the perfect answer to the faulty logic and rhetoric of the Liberals like Colmes, who almost never use logic and reasoning in their debate, just Party line rhetoric and spin.

In addition, as I stated on another thread on this subject:

"ALL FREE REPUBLIC lovers of liberty should be thrilled when an articulate person steeped in an understanding of America's Constitutional republic and the philosophy expressed in the Declaration of Independence gets a chance to be heard by hundreds of thousands of people.

"Let's not quibble about the win/lose question right now. Hadn't the election already been virtually conceded to Obama when Ryan dropped out? If so, let's just be glad that a controversial, outspoken advocate for liberty has a chance to be heard. Who knows, some future young leader may be influenced by the reasoned arguments Keyes will use to rebut the Liberal Left politics of the Democrats.

"Every voice for the Founders' philosophy is needed right now. Keyes, by education and by talent and devotion to the Constitution, needs to be heard. Let him have the pulpit! Give him the vote. Fresh air and sunshine are needed--and the young rising star of the Liberal Left may learn some new debating skills, and a thing or two about America's founding philosophy too."

Alan Keyes is a 21st Century man who holds deeply to the philosophy of Washington, the Adamses, Madison, Jefferson, and all the other geniuses who made the 'miracle of America' come into being. Not only does his Harvard education in constitutional government qualify him for expounding on that philosophy, but he has a Creator-endowed intellect and ability to articulate principles that few others possess. More power to the Illinois GOP for its courage in putting him opposite Obama in the debate arena!!






60 posted on 08/07/2004 6:39:27 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Mini-14

This site has links to many recent Keyes speeches!
http://www.renewamerica.us/archives/


144 posted on 08/08/2004 2:22:17 PM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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