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IBM says it won't assert patents against Linux kernel
InfoWorld ^ | August 04, 2004 | Ed Scannell

Posted on 08/06/2004 2:56:30 PM PDT by rdb3

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To: GeorgiaFreeper
Too late when they have you hooked on the crack.

But that's the great thing about Linux: it'll run practically anywhere. You have a choice of hardware, software and support vendors. I have a mix of HP, IBM, Gateway, Dell, Toshiba and Microtel here, everything runs Red Hat, and I can support myself.

As an aside, have you noticed that FR's spell checker does not recognize linux :D but has no problem with Microsoft?

I don't use spell-checkers. I don't need 'em. ;-)

41 posted on 08/07/2004 1:10:43 PM PDT by TechJunkYard (http://scaryjohnkerry.com/)
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To: GeorgiaFreeper
The spell checker just want's me to give linux proper respect and capitalize the L.

Aha... well, FR does run on Linux after all.

42 posted on 08/07/2004 1:11:59 PM PDT by TechJunkYard (http://scaryjohnkerry.com/)
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To: TechJunkYard
I don't use spell-checkers. I don't need 'em. ;-)

My typing in incredibly bad so I use them a lot :0
43 posted on 08/07/2004 1:13:04 PM PDT by GeorgiaFreeper (Hitlery does not have fat ankles. That's where the hooves show through above the foot prosthetics.)
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To: GeorgiaFreeper
I have to admire IBM on this one. They make a cheap announcement with nothing to back it up and instantly get thousands of cheerleaders for their products.

Yeah, IBM's assurances are pretty worthless. It would be hilarious to see somebody encroach on IBM patent-derived revenue, wake up the sleeping giant, get sued by IBM's attorneys, and then hold up a printout from JokeLaw asserting, "Bu-bu-bu-but ... IBM said they wouldn-sue us! WAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!" Priceless.
44 posted on 08/07/2004 1:33:38 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Yup, plus I think they will eventually start charging for linux, especially if they start losing many of their AIX customers to "free" software.
45 posted on 08/07/2004 1:38:17 PM PDT by GeorgiaFreeper (Hitlery does not have fat ankles. That's where the hooves show through above the foot prosthetics.)
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To: GeorgiaFreeper
I think they (IBM) will eventually start charging for linux

IBM doesn't want to get in the hogpen of Linux business, and is using Red Hat and Novell to keep it's hands clean. The last thing they want is to have to pay a $500 million dollar fine to Eolas for a browser patent like Microsoft did. They will continue to use Red Hat and others as a proxy for selling their hardware, which leaves Red Hat and Novell exposed to these suits. Once a few start kicking in (those owning the patents are in no hurry now, simply waiting for higher Linux installed base numbers), it will force the Linux sofware companies to start charging more for their wares to keep out of the red.

Where IBM will first begin to threaten patent issues will be with other open source applications that compete with DB2 or WebSphere. We've already seen the threat open source databases pose to them, as well as IBM's willingness to sue other database vendors for patent infringement.

IBM sues Informix for patent infringment

46 posted on 08/07/2004 4:37:13 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: GeorgiaFreeper
get thousands of cheerleaders for their products.

Well, That's an interesting opinion but IBM does make very reliable hardware and operating systems. True that what they produce such as OS/400 is proprietary but it is much more stable than open systems. And that is simply a statistical fact.

You can call it cheerleading but for every IBM bigot there are 10 times as many open systems bigots. And for the record there are things about both concepts which are useful. I would never exclude one and embrace the other.

Technology is like a salad bar, you take what you want and leave what you dont.

47 posted on 08/08/2004 4:17:19 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: Golden Eagle
Jokelaw

Cute. Good name I guess, as Groklaw is usually writing about SCO, a company trying to make a joke of the law.

48 posted on 08/09/2004 8:39:39 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: snopercod
Out of fairness and consistency, I think engineers, designers, and creaters of all kinds should be treated the same as musicians.

It's two different things. Musicians are covered under copyright, while these engineers and inventors are covered under patent. But in both cases they receive royalties for their creations/inventions being played/sold.

49 posted on 08/09/2004 8:45:19 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I guess engineers should get themselves agents and producers.


50 posted on 08/10/2004 2:58:33 AM PDT by snopercod (Nine out of the 10 recessions since World War II have occurred after a big run-up in oil prices.)
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To: ryanjb2
Your right I mean a diverse marketplace, innovation and free access have nothing at all to do with capitalism
51 posted on 08/12/2004 6:19:38 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Golden Eagle
And remember kids by this logic dont write your own code just trust daddy microsoft to do it. With millions of patents out there Im sure any complex internal application will violate one of them...

F small business, long link monopolies..

52 posted on 08/12/2004 6:25:19 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: GeorgiaFreeper
I love it when people assume they are smarter in all areas than all people.. Why does IBM put Billions of dollars into opensource development? Are they just dymber than you or are they going to Focus on Hardware and services?

I had IBM in here the other day pushing hard for a p series box running Linux (Because Oracle supports Linux)..

53 posted on 08/12/2004 6:31:13 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3
And remember kids by this logic dont write your own code just trust daddy microsoft to do it. With millions of patents out there Im sure any complex internal application will violate one of them...

The primary purpose of my employer is to develop new software applications, which we do and so far no one has sued us for patent or copyright infringement. If we are violating other's IP, and we begin to grow in market share, they may let us know, at which point we would be obligated to legally settle the dispute.

No different than if you opened up a hamburger place right next to "McDonalds" and put up a goldem M but called it "McBurgers". According to you though, if McDonald's complained, they would be trying to "F small business" I guess.

54 posted on 08/15/2004 7:46:11 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3
Why does IBM put Billions of dollars into opensource development?

Simple, to break the SUN/SCO dominance of the *nix market, which they've now done by devaluing Unix IP to equate with freeware.


55 posted on 08/15/2004 7:52:06 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: snopercod
I guess engineers should get themselves agents and producers.

Problem is most engineers do their work for hire.

56 posted on 08/16/2004 1:19:57 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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