[My2Cents]

nor do I buy the notion that Iraq will ever be a civilized country as the West defines civilized.

Just so long as they don't threaten the region (including Israel), work toward producing The Bomb, and collude with international terrorists...that's all we ask.

[fatidic]

Preventing Iraq from developing the Bomb is pretty much all we can do. To keep Iraq from supporting/colluding terrorists you'd have to lock down the country and every other Muslim country. I'm not saying it's a losing battle against terrorism/Islam (same thing), but it is daunting. I also think Israel should stop taking orders from the U.S. and do what they must for themselves starting with taking Arafat out ASAP, e.g.