SWIFT VETS:Transcrip of O'Neil vs Kerry on Dick Cavett (sKerry:Disembler then/Disembler now)

http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php?topic=KerryONeill ^ | Aug 2004 | Dick Cavett via Swift vets

[longtermmemmory]

This is an amazing transcript. He dug up ONE vet after months of accusation. He also was "conected" to the politics of the anti-war machine for political advantage then too.

Kerry's own words damn him then and now.

Couple this with his senate record whre he supported the USSR,

sKerry is unfit for command.

[EdReform]

Bump & Ping

[unsycophant]

Thanks for posting this. It's especially relevant today.

[longtermmemmory]

Kerry's own words damn him.

Kerry's running and hiding from his verifiable military record dams him.

Kerry's refusal to release his records dams him.

Even the alleged retract damns him because the retracts says only "I heard his confession, I did not see his confession"

In a court of law the confession would be admissible. If under those strict standards it gets in why can't kerry deal with the debate in the marketplace of ideas?

[elbucko]

I remember watching this interview in the ready room of a Nike Hercules site, while serving out the rest of my time. It made me sick then, it makes me sick now.

John Kerry is no better than Lyndon Johnson. Johnson used Vietnam to insure a second term as president, Kerry to gain a first term as president. "JFK" is nothing more than a New England "LBJ". They'll do anything to get elected.

[longtermmemmory]

Where are the POW's who were shown kerry's speeches during their tortures?

Kerry will not be president with this type of attack.

Kerry is now becoming a thing to be pittied as pathetic.

[JPJones]

I think further that the justification that Hanoi uses for keeping our POWs is that they were engaged in criminal acts there, and I think that someone who comes out and says exactly the same thing could be doing nothing but serving those purposes, although I'm not – obviously those are not your intentions. There's no question about that.

Maybe that's why Kerry's picture is in Hanoi on the wall of "heroes of socialism" or some such wall.

[joesnuffy]

There it is...for any who have a mind to...to read for themselves... Truth....about John Kery....

But to quote JK

There has been – there have been cases of censorship in this war. There are hundreds of reporters, not the least of which Peter Arnett, a Pulitzer prize winning reporter, who will testify to that.

Just ask Peter Arnett.....bwahahahahahahaha......birds of a feather....

[angkor]

C-SPAN ran this debate in the entirety a couple months ago, and I hoope they run it again.

IMHO O'Neill kicked butt, but Kerry had the weight of the times and a sympathetic audience on his side (what could you expect, it was the Cavett show from NYC).

However it does reveal Kerry at his most pompous, detestable, and un-American best.

[longtermmemmory]

But will C-Span play it again before November?

will they play it now that it is relevant?

Will they play it during the CFR blackout period?

Playing it early is a way of "getting it over with"

[Flashman_at_the_charge]

This man has attempted the murder of the reputations of two and a half million of us, including the 55,000 dead in Vietnam, and he will never be brought to justice. We can only seek justice and equity from the American people. Every man kills the thing he loves. By each let this be told: The brave man does it with the sword; the coward with the word.

Kerry has had his 15 minutes, now we should let the SwiftVets have theirs.

[MeekOneGOP]

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Watch this TV AD!

Swiftvets who served with John Kerry talk about
UNFIT, DISHONEST John Kerry

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DRUDGE:ANTI-KERRY VETS GATHER FOR ASSAULT;
BOOK CLAIMS KERRY WAR 'FABRICATIONS'

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Excellent anti-Kerry video laying out the VietNam case against him...

Great to forward and spread to the public.

http://www.stopjohn.com/movies/hanoi-john.htm

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Kerry Fitness Reports in Vietnam Show Him Unfit for Command
(Explodes Central Kerry Campaign Lie)

Kerry’s FITREPs are awash in dings, and some of the reports border on the adverse, particularly his combat FITREPs. The FITREPs convey significant performance problems and suggest problems in conduct, so much so that it is surprising that the campaign chose to release them. This may suggest that the FITREPs held from public view are even more adverse.

In what would customarily be an opportunity for a glowing “swan song” FITREP, the Commanding Officer of USS Gridley (DLG-21) tacitly blasts Kerry on his departure for Swift Boat duty by ranking him significantly below the norm in desirability for virtually every Navy assignment possible -– command, staff, whatever. He is a ship handler who is dinged in ship handling. He is in line for command, but his CO doesn’t want him near the bridge. He is slammed in all performance areas –- most notably and significantly in initiative and reliability. The “nice” narrative emphasizes performance in collateral duties, but in the grades and marks, the CO is telling the selection board and detailer loud and clear that this officer is lazy, unreliable and not suited for command. 3 SEP 68 (W.E. HARPER).

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WinterSoldier.com

[NeoCon_21]

Great to see, awesome post.

This put things in perspective. We have been fighting the same people, (John Kerry, Peter Arnett, Socialists) for over 30 years now. We lost Vietnam Politcally here at home not militarily. These people are self-prophesizers they take a subject and oppose it on the basis of ideaology for their own political expediency rather then in terms of what is best for freedom for America and for others around the world. There is no differnce for them between socialist governemtents or communists or western democracies (except the latter are especially despised because of their overwhelming success)

The bottom line is this is a cultural, ideological war for the survival of America. The enemies from abroad are never as dangerous as the enemies at home.

[longtermmemmory]

The media is not covering this story.

The newspapers are too consolodated to report the real story behind the fake retraction story. Only Rush has been able to reach the Masses. OReily has exposed himself as the populist eunach that he is. Hanity has been doing a good job within his 60 seconds and Estridge was allowed to shout down the Swift vet.

This history and the swiftvets stories shold be pushing kerry left, instead the ENTIRE media is protecting kerry. (and their investigative turf)

[unsycophant]

MR. KERRY: Well, I hardly think the second really merits that much discussion – I'm not sure – that much discussion or consideration.

The fact of the matter is that the members of Coastal Division 11 and Coastal Division 13 when I was in Vietnam were fighting the policy very, very hard, to the point that many of the members were refusing to carry out orders on some of their missions; to the point where the crews started to in fact mutiny, say, "I would not go back on the rivers again;" the point where my commanding officer was relieved of duty because he pressed our objections to what we were doing with the captain in command of the entire operation.

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MR. O'NEILL: I'd like to respond to both of those points. The first point is I served in Coastal Division 11 for 12 months, not four. I never saw any moral protest there. I think that the story Mr. Kerry has told, if you take a look at it and talk to the people involved, including that admiral who is now the chief of naval operations, is in large measure prevarication. The reason they were brought to Saigon wasn't – and here I'm not speaking from first person knowledge, but there are a number of people I know that could. The reason they were brought there was that they had taken such severe casualties, and the great majority of people in that coastal division weren't opposed to the war.As I understand Mr. Kerry's release from the Navy, he got it to run for Congress, which was his way of working, you know, against the war. He didn't go down and work at the polls like everybody else. He just ran for Congress.

(BTTT)

[unsycophant]

Mr. Kerry is the type of person who lives and survives only on the war weariness and fears of the American people. This is the same little man who on nationwide television in April spoke of

"crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command,"

who was quoted in a prominent news magazine in May as saying, quote,

"war crimes in Vietnam are the rule and not the exception," unquote.

Who brought 50 veterans down to Washington to testify about alleged atrocities in April, the same 50 who after they had appeared on every major news network refused to provide any depositions or provide any details of any kind.

((more))

[unsycophant]

This is a fascinating transcript because it contains so many insightful relevant remarks about Kerry even way back then. You're sure right about seeing how some things never change, even 30 years later. SSDD.

[Choose Ye This Day]

I think there's something particularly pathetic about me having to appear on nationwide television and trade polished little phrases with you to defend the honor of the 55,000 people that died there, the two and a half million of us that served there.

That should have left a mark.

[SerpentDove]

If Kerry's own words aren't used against him by the Bush campaign, in the near future, I'll be very surprised.

Remember, it was Cheney who said at the last convention, "I think we're all a little tired of the 'Clinton-Gore Act.'"

[IncPen]

This is replaying on CSpan on Sunday...