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Republicans' Dishonorable Charge (FR/ FRN mention: CONASON ALERT)
Salon ^ | 8/5/2004 | Joe Conason

Posted on 08/06/2004 7:16:23 AM PDT by diotima

"Dishonest and dishonorable" is how John McCain described the attack ad now appearing on television in several swing states, courtesy of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Dishonest because the men who appear in the ad make false claims about John Kerry's wartime conduct and decorations. Dishonorable because these men have waited three decades to publicize their slurs, with partisan motives, during a presidential campaign.

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The hired help employed by the Swift Vets committee is thoroughly partisan, too. Aside from Spaeth and Thomas Rupprath, the private detective she recommended to provide research services, the group's IRS filing names several experienced Washington political operatives. The June 30 filing shows payments to Robert A. Hahn, a right-wing Internet activist and Web designer who also runs something called the Free Republic Network (apparently an affiliate of the extremist Free Republic Web site); and to Tom Wyld, a Navy veteran and former director of public relations for the NRA Institute for Legislative Action, the lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association.

The White House has deniability, to be sure, if charged with complicity in this campaign. The question is whether its deniability is plausible -- or risible.

As for the accuracy of the Republican veterans' accusations, they can be tested against the testimony of the men who served under Kerry's command -- all of whom but one have repeatedly endorsed his courage, his decency, and his candidacy. Denigration of Kerry's record should also be measured against the sterling evaluations that he received during the actual time of his service, including by Adm. Roy Hoffman, who now chairs the Swift Boat Veterans group.

No doubt the Republicans hope that attacking Kerry will distract from important issues they would prefer not to discuss or debate. But their campaign is backfiring, as drawing fresh attention to Vietnam does not flatter the candidate who avoided service there.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; blahblahblah; joeconason; swiftboatveterans
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To: diotima
Joe reminds me a bit of 'Bob', from Bagdad. Our brave forces, etc.

Don't forget the shoes, Joe. Something about crushing your enemy with shoes. BOOSH - is the REAL enemy. Am I right Joe? Get - BOOOSH!

161 posted on 08/06/2004 1:11:00 PM PDT by sevry
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To: diotima
Denigration of Kerry's record should also be measured against the sterling evaluations that he received during the actual time of his service, including by Adm. Roy Hoffman, who now chairs the Swift Boat Veterans group.

Yes, I'm sure. So let's have a Form 180 filed so we can read these glowing evals.

If Kerry is telling the truth, he releases his records and this goes away. Fat chance he will.

162 posted on 08/06/2004 1:18:57 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Bad to the bone, baby, just like Sam Adams and George Washington.


163 posted on 08/06/2004 1:20:55 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: Neets
Maybe the person who claims to have IP information traffic information sent it to Conason. Ya never know!!!

Neets, not that I matter, but was that an answer to Bob's question?
164 posted on 08/06/2004 2:08:36 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Registered

Mind over matter Reg...mind over matter.

I won't mind that you don't matter.


165 posted on 08/06/2004 3:00:42 PM PDT by Neets (Conservative women LOVE BURLEY MEN, not GIRLIE DEMS.!)
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To: diotima

So were extremists because we think Kerry is an idiot? Gotta love it.


166 posted on 08/06/2004 3:04:41 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: diotima
extremist Free Republic Web site

Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never harm me.

167 posted on 08/06/2004 3:04:48 PM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: diotima
No doubt the Republicans hope that attacking Kerry will distract from important issues they would prefer not to discuss or debate. But their campaign is backfiring, as drawing fresh attention to Vietnam does not flatter the candidate who avoided service there.

The liberals always accuse Republicans or what they themselves are guilty of.

Hey, JOE CONASON! Does Kerry think going into Iraq was a mistake, or not a mistake? Does Kerry believe life begins at conception, or not? Does Kerry want to raise taxes for the war he forgot we were waging, or does he promise not to raise taxes ever? Does Kerry believe the security fence in Israel is a mistake, as he said to an Arab/Muslim group, or does he think it's an important safety device, as he later claimed?

168 posted on 08/06/2004 3:06:07 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: diotima

How do we know for sure we're extremists unless George W. Bush refuses to repudiate us?


169 posted on 08/06/2004 3:06:45 PM PDT by Graymatter (Countdown---89 more days.)
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To: diotima

extremist? I always thought this place was where all the normal Americans came to talk about Stuff. I guess I was wrong


170 posted on 08/06/2004 3:14:52 PM PDT by 12.7mm
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To: diotima

If four months in Vietnam qualifies a guy to be Commander-in-Chief, even if Kerry was all he believes he was in his own mind-we can do much better.

Just think how much more qualified one of those Vets with two or three complete hitches in Nam would be. Throw Kerry back-he's the runt of the litter.


171 posted on 08/06/2004 3:23:19 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (John (Frank Burns) Kerry and his mate, Teresa (haughty lips) Hooliheinz,reporting for duty.)
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To: diotima

But he fails to ask if the swift vets are telling the truth...only mentions who is helping get the word out.

With the majority of the press FOR Kerry, the only way for the swift vets to get the word out was to buy ads. But silly me, maybe the Democrats would really want to help pay for these ads to keep Kerry from winning...after all, the DemRATs care more about the truth than about winning at all costs /sarcasm off


172 posted on 08/06/2004 3:37:19 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: diotima
"affiliate of the extremist Free Republic Web site"

Seek the truth in the Liberal World and you are labeled extreme.

Proud to be extreme in the Liberal Mind!

173 posted on 08/06/2004 3:39:47 PM PDT by agincourt1415 ("Unfit for Command"at your Local Bookstore Soon!)
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To: diotima; Bob J; Nick Danger
Salon.com Announces Election-Year Initiative With MoveOn, The Guardian and Air America

March 13, 2004 | Timothy Karr

NEW YORK, March 9, 2004 -- Salon.com announced Tuesday night a series of ambitious election-year initiatives, including the opening of a new Washington D.C. news bureau as well as strategic partnerships with MoveOn.org, The Guardian of London and the new progressive radio network, Air America.

The Website, which bills itself as "the largest independent news organization in the country" will also make the announcement via an email to MoveOn.org's 2-million plus members, MediaChannel has learned from a memo sent on Monday to Salon board members from company editor and founder David Talbot.

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174 posted on 08/06/2004 5:01:27 PM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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To: diotima
Extremist?

Or Extremists?

I report, I decide.

175 posted on 08/06/2004 5:08:51 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Dreier; Too bad, he used to be a good guy. Now he's a good example.)
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To: Neets; Registered
Mind over matter Reg...mind over matter. I won't mind that you don't matter.

Sounds like the answer was "yes"

I think you matter Registered, but then again I do not matter, so take that for what it is worth.

176 posted on 08/06/2004 5:18:59 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Dreier; Too bad, he used to be a good guy. Now he's a good example.)
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To: dead

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177 posted on 08/06/2004 5:31:59 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: najida

Say, isn't that part of the secret Kerry plan for energy dependence? I saw something about rebates to consumers for
energy efficient vehicles.....


178 posted on 08/06/2004 5:35:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: dubyaismypresident
"We are bad and we are nationwide."

Some of us are bad, bad, bad, bad, bad and nationwide. LOL

ZZTop says it best!
179 posted on 08/06/2004 5:43:49 PM PDT by DocRock (Check my homepage for more "home movies" of the Kerry campaign)
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To: DocRock


Salon.bomb
180 posted on 08/06/2004 6:00:02 PM PDT by John Lenin ( You can't say civilization isn't advancing; in every war they kill you in a new way)
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