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If You Believe Life Begins At Conception, How Do You Allow For Abortion?
WORLD Magazine ^ | 8/7/04 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 08/06/2004 6:22:14 AM PDT by dukeman

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It can be hard to be consistent, but so much depends upon it.
1 posted on 08/06/2004 6:22:14 AM PDT by dukeman
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To: dukeman

It is really quite simple: choosing to allow your infant to live, or murdering it.


2 posted on 08/06/2004 6:27:05 AM PDT by sarasota
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If You Believe Life Begins At Conception, How Do You Allow For Abortion?

Why do you place so much emphasis on not killing people?
There a more than enough of them.

So9

3 posted on 08/06/2004 6:27:16 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Ebola is our friend.)
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This is not a problem to reconcile in John Kerry's dream world where it's possible to believe 100 or more apposing view points simultaneously, and the Media gives you a free pass.


4 posted on 08/06/2004 6:27:45 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok ("Its not a problem for the wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezle")
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To: dukeman; rhema
There Veith goes again, trying to bring logic and facts to bear on a culture ruled by emotion, image, and self-absorbed arrogance.

Dan
The Bible and the Bull's-Eye on the Baby

5 posted on 08/06/2004 6:28:01 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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If You Believe Life Begins At Conception, How Do You Allow For Abortion?

That's easy....you don't.

6 posted on 08/06/2004 6:28:06 AM PDT by mommybain (Summer has been repealed...by the NC Board of Education)
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In Britain, a BBC documentary showing ultrasound images of babies in the womb sucking their thumbs, moving around, making faces, and otherwise acting like babies, has created something of a sensation.

Show the pictures, damn it!

7 posted on 08/06/2004 6:29:48 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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maybe he believes in murder


8 posted on 08/06/2004 6:30:37 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it)
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Why do you place so much emphasis on not killing people? There a more than enough of them.

Are you a person? Are you one too many?

9 posted on 08/06/2004 6:31:06 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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I've been hammering away on this since he made his "life begins at conception" statement. There's no escape hatch from this.


10 posted on 08/06/2004 6:32:36 AM PDT by smonk
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Well, John Kerry says that it's a living human being at conception -- it's just not a person. So he's perfectly consistent. Hope that clears things up.

< /sarcasm >

11 posted on 08/06/2004 6:32:54 AM PDT by Sloth (John Kerry: Frank Burns with Charles Winchester's pedigree.)
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Just as someone who carries a gun for self defense can be against the death penalty.

There are situations where, as tragic as it may be, one life must be weighed against another and a terrible choice must be made.

"Supporting abortion" is not necessarily the same thing as supporting abortion on demand, and limiting abortion does not have to mean taking it to Ceaucescu-like extremes of forced monthly pregnancy tests for all fertile women.


12 posted on 08/06/2004 6:33:30 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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sophistry


13 posted on 08/06/2004 6:34:48 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: dukeman

Bottom line: kerry supports abortion, so he can't believe that life starts at conception. Its one of his deceptions in order to have it both ways. Anyone who can't see through this is dense.


14 posted on 08/06/2004 6:35:10 AM PDT by ampat
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Abortion and gay marriage are both punishments for an even bigger sin. Idolatry.


15 posted on 08/06/2004 6:37:09 AM PDT by biblewonk (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK...AND I USE IT TOO.)
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To: ampat

Exactly. The correct Orwellian word is "doublethink."

The Democrat Party's entire belief system is founded on doublethink, that is why rational debate and logic have no effect on them.


16 posted on 08/06/2004 6:38:01 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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Why do you place so much emphasis on not killing people? There a more than enough of them.

Are you a person? Are you one too many?

Sometimes I'm a person, sometimes I'm the person.

I am one too many if you are more ruthless or have a superior immune system.

So9

17 posted on 08/06/2004 6:39:06 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Ebola is our friend.)
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Sometimes I'm a person, sometimes I'm the person.

I am one too many if you are more ruthless or have a superior immune system.

LOL!

On the other hand, I am always The Man.

18 posted on 08/06/2004 6:43:15 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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Why do you place so much emphasis on not killing people?

It's called morality, and is the foundation of a civilized society. I believe it was codified by Rabbi Hillel about 2000 years ago: "That which is hateful to you, do not do to another."

Both concepts -- morality and civilized society -- appear to be alien as far as you are concerned.

19 posted on 08/06/2004 6:44:20 AM PDT by Campion
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Kerry aside, under human law since the beginning of time, there has never been a situation where the taking of a human life has been completely proscribed regardless of the circumstances. The commandment is "thou shalt not murder," not "thou shalt not kill."

It is not morally inconsistent to both recognize that a foetus is an individual human life and that in some cases, such as an ectopic pregnancy, that this individual human life must be ended.

This is what puzzles me about the abortion proponents - they don't seem to recognize that every state had a "saving the life of the mother" exemption in their abortion ban.


20 posted on 08/06/2004 6:44:25 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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