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Today Show on Swift Boat Ad: Ask Not if it's True; Ask if Bush Campaign Should Apologize
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Posted on 08/06/2004 4:30:40 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: SC Swamp Fox
Sandy Burger? Isn't he the latest Clinton administration member to fall under the wheels of the Republican attack machine?

The Sandy Berger Signature Collection: A Roomy, Durable Ensemble For the Amoral, Ambitious Young Democrat On the GO!" :)

21 posted on 08/06/2004 4:51:21 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: BluH2o

You are totally right about Campbell Brown! She seems to actually hate President Bush.


22 posted on 08/06/2004 4:51:58 AM PDT by coloradomom
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Brown then got an answer she surely didn't want when discussion turned to Kerry's attack on W for not immediately leaving the elementary school classroom when informed of the second 9/11 plane attack. She observed: "Kerry has faulted Bush for a scene people are familiar with from Fahrenheit 911."

On another thread someone posted a partial transcript from a Kerry appearance on Larry King Live sometime after the 9/11 attacks. Kerry said something like a bunch of them were in Daschle's office (I think), when the first and second planes hit. They sat -- unable to think (I forget the exact phrasing) -- until they "saw" (one poster suggested "With binoculars?") the plane hit the Pentagon, some 35 to 40 minutes later. Talk about rapid response!

I wish I could remember which thread it's on.

23 posted on 08/06/2004 4:55:07 AM PDT by maryz
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To: All

As most FReepers probably are aware, Campbell Brown's father was a corrupt Louisiana Democrat official (redundant?) who served time in a federal prison:


LA Democrat Insurance Commissioner Heads to Prison
The Shreveport Times | 10-15-02 | Hill, John


Brown set to leave for prison October 15, 2002 BATON ROUGE - After having coffee and beignets at Baton Rouge's Coffee Call with friends, suspended State Insurance Commissioner Jim Brown will drive to the Oakdale federal prison, his home for the next six months.

Brown spent Monday visiting with his family - talking with his daughters from the White House to Peru - and packing up the last of 125 books he has arranged in order of preferred reading for his wife Gladys to mail off 5 at a time every Monday.

"I'm going to make the best of it," said Brown, who vowed he will continue appealing his conviction of federal charges of lying to an FBI agent to the U.S. Supreme Court long after he finishes serving his sentence.

Brown can take with him one pair of reading glasses, a religious ornament - in his case, a cross given him by a priest, and his wedding band. Once his wife and her sister, Gloria Carter, drop him off at the gate and he checks in, even the clothes on his back will be mailed back home.

His 4-year-old Yorkshire Terrier, "Shorty," who sleeps by his legs stayed close by Monday as Brown showed a visitor some of his paperback books purchased from the recent LSU Book Fair, a fund-raiser for the LSU Library. Among the reading: Mississippi writers Eudora Welty and William Faulkner, Robert Penn Warren's All The King's Men (based on Huey Long), as well as more recent books such as York Times reporter Rick Bragg's All Over But the Shouting.

Brown, who has 5,000 books in his personal library, has been a voracious reader since childhood and college. Reynolds Price, who taught Brown at Duke University, is among his favorite authors.

"I've probably already read about 40 percent of these," Brown said. "But books are like old friends. You need to take them out and revisit them every now and then."

Brown's phone was ringing constantly Monday with well-wishers, too many calls to return. So Jim and Gladys Brown decided to tell friends to come by the popular Baton Rouge coffee house that is modeled on the French Quarter's Morning Call this morning.

He plans to spend about 45 minutes visiting before leaving for the two-hour drive to Oakdale, an 86-bed small federal prison that is centrally located. His mother, Helen Brown, and brother, Jack Brown, both of Shreveport, are just more than 2 hours away. It is also only about 2 hours away from Baton Rouge, where his son, James, is an LSU freshmen.

Brown spend part of Monday talking on the phone with his three daughters from a previous marriage: Campbell Brown, 34, the NBC-TV White House correspondent; Gentry Brown, 31, a Memphis ad executive, and Meredith, 29, a nurse who is in Peru giving free medical care.

"One of the worst things about this is not being able to contact my family whenever I want," Brown said. He said he will be limited to 300 minutes a month in telephone calls.

"At this stage in life," the 62-year-old Brown said, "the most important thing to you is your right to do what you want when you want to do it. I am losing that right."

He awoke Monday facing his last 24 hours before beginning the six-month sentence worried. "But not about the big picture, but the little things - paying my bills, making sure my kids are taken care of, the things any person would do if he were going away for six months," Brown said.

Brown was convicted in October 2000 of lying to an FBI agent by the same jury that found him not guilty of charges he conspired to fix the liquidation of the failed Shreveport-based Cascade Insurance Co. on terms favorable to owner David Disiere. Former Gov. Edwin Edwards and Shreveport attorney Ron Weems were acquitted of all charges that they were co-conspirators.

"What happened to me was unfair," Brown said, noting that prosecutors refused to give him the FBI agents' handwritten notes that he could have used to challenge the agents' testimony. In the same trial, Weems got those handwritten notes and did use them in his defense.

Appellate courts have disagreed with Brown's assessment that not having the notes violated his rights to confront his accuser. The U.S. Supreme Court will have the final say.

Brown remains Louisiana's elected insurance commissioner, but all duties are performed by First Assistant State Insurance Commissioner Robert Wooley.

Wooley said Brown is suspended without pay "until he exhausts all of his appeals," which means until the U.S. Supreme Court acts on Brown's appeal.

If the nation's highest court reverses his conviction and there is time left in Brown's term - which now ends January 2004 - Brown is automatically reinstated and can ask the Legislature to reimburse him all attorneys' fees and his back pay.

If the court upholds Brown's conviction, Wooley becomes insurance commissioner


24 posted on 08/06/2004 4:56:11 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Interesting that the media didn't find these guys, isn't it?

The media didn't want to know, did it? Wonder why...?

25 posted on 08/06/2004 4:57:42 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If a Republican was preaching abstinence and fidelity and was caught with his pants down in a whorehouse, would the media be defending him? Would the media attack his accusers?

Yet they defend Kerry when Kerry runs on his Vietnam record and gets called on it. Go figure. McCain is nuts to even be talking about this. Kerry brought this on himself.


26 posted on 08/06/2004 5:04:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
McCain is nuts to even be talking about this.

I'd say McCain did this because he adores the adulation of the liberal media and knows that this kind of statement will get him tons of fawning coverage.

27 posted on 08/06/2004 5:07:14 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Yes, the Bush administration should apologize for the SwiftBoat Vet advertisement, RIGHT AFTER the Kerry campaign apologizes for Michael Moore, the Hollyweird Bush Bash, the endless cavalcade of books written by their minions of liars and whores.


28 posted on 08/06/2004 5:07:17 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Campbell was utterly disinterested in whether the charges are true. Indeed, she effectively seemed to presume the falseness of the allegations.

She was UNinterested.

29 posted on 08/06/2004 5:07:21 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

No matter what you think about swiftvets (truth or right-wing hit job), you just can't avoid the fact that John Kerry made this bed with his own hands. Months ago he PERSONALLY joined the chorus of "Bush hasn't proven he wasn't AWOL" crap. And with the convention, he made Vietnam THE centerpiece of his campaign. So, per Kerry himself, Vietnam is EVERYTHING, and we should review records and nitpick like hell. So here we are.


30 posted on 08/06/2004 5:08:04 AM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: isthisnickcool

CNN is dubbing it as "an attack ad," but right now they're playing the whole thing, start to finish.

They have a guy named Elder from SWIFTvets and Sandusky, who was on Kerry's boat.

Elder is kicking butt, IMHO.


31 posted on 08/06/2004 5:09:35 AM PDT by angkor
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"Now, apologize!"

"What! Me apologize to you?!?

"Apologize..."

32 posted on 08/06/2004 5:09:35 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Arthur McGowan; All

You are entirely correct. My mistake and thanks for the correction.

As AG is pointing out, "disinterested" means "unaffected by personal interest; impartial; fair." "Uninterested" means "not having or showing interest."


33 posted on 08/06/2004 5:11:56 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
First Down Kerry




This is how I flew above, the jungles there in Nam.
I held the skid and fired my gun, bam bam bam bam bam.
We approached the landing zone, I was the first man down.
“First Down Kerry”, I was called, Air Cav had come to town.
I designed the Huey, the Cobra, the Jolly Green.
Still I went to fight VC, I was a lean machine.
Swift boats, choppers, bombers too, ah yes I did it all.
For four months I was busy, but still I took the call.
I served with honor, brave, and true, saved so many men.
Viet Nam is safer now, I would go back again.

Conspiracy Guy aka DIF 8/5/2004

34 posted on 08/06/2004 5:13:33 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (They are where you least expect. Look around and you'll see them too.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What happened to Edwards' exhortation: "Just spend three minutes with the Men who served with John Kerry"? A little too embarrassing -- when the fraud was exposed? Why not clear it up with a release of Kerry's medical records, like every other candidate for the presidency? Better now than after the election.


35 posted on 08/06/2004 5:14:02 AM PDT by OESY
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To: goldstategop

Gee, I thought all hope was lost. Russert? Did I see pigs fly across my window?


36 posted on 08/06/2004 5:14:51 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: maryz
On another thread someone posted a partial transcript from a Kerry appearance on Larry King Live sometime after the 9/11 attacks. Kerry said something like a bunch of them were in Daschle's office (I think), when the first and second planes hit. They sat -- unable to think (I forget the exact phrasing) -- until they "saw" (one poster suggested "With binoculars?") the plane hit the Pentagon, some 35 to 40 minutes later. Talk about rapid response!

Great catch! That needs to be found and put out there.

37 posted on 08/06/2004 5:18:43 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: angkor

I thought Elder was great - calm, serious, and strong. Sandusky (Kerry's crewman) didn't come across as well, IMO. I usually watch CNN's American Morning because their coverage tends to be fair and non-inflammatory (well, except for the old curmudgeon, Jack Cafferty - but he's funny, sometimes). They didn't disappoint me today.


38 posted on 08/06/2004 5:19:01 AM PDT by coloradomom
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
what a shame such an attractive woman is such an ugly hack

The democrats have had back to back loosers as Presidential candidates.....one a rapist the other a war whore

39 posted on 08/06/2004 5:19:35 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The propagandists are "reporting for duty" for John F'n Kerry.


40 posted on 08/06/2004 5:21:53 AM PDT by PGalt
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