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1 posted on 08/05/2004 2:31:27 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig

I saw some of it on Hannity & Colmes last night. If the word got out, the "s" would hit the fan all over America. The Kerry camp will probably be able to squash it with the help of the media . . . or spin the story to make Kerry look good.


119 posted on 08/05/2004 3:41:58 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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According to a station manager (who called the ads really well done and that they would be run), there is little threat of getting in trouble because in the packet that included the ads which were sent to stations, AFFIDAVITS......SWORN STATEMENTS.....were included to bolster the claims of the Swift Vets folks.

I wonder if Kerry would sign a sworn statement denying the claims? I doubt it.


128 posted on 08/05/2004 3:52:32 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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I don't remember the count, but, how many of the men who appeared on stage with Kerry at the convention actually served on the boat with him?

-PJ

138 posted on 08/05/2004 4:13:09 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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Under the fairness doctrine they should show at least three minutes of Kerry testifying. :-)


149 posted on 08/05/2004 4:30:38 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhh!!!!!!!!!!!! Something touched a nerve! The truth hurts!
150 posted on 08/05/2004 4:30:44 PM PDT by MrChips (ARD)
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If veterans are not allowed to speak then I figure the next 8.0 earthquake will be at Arlington when the whole lot of them roll over in their graves.

God help America.


161 posted on 08/05/2004 4:42:21 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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I believe that this is from Rick Perlstein's book, Before the Storm.

"The ad showed a little girl in a field picking petals off a daisy. 'One, two, three, four, five, seven, six, eight, nine,' she counts; then, startled, looks up from the flower. The next scene is of an atomic bomb exploding while Johnson's voice intones, 'These are the stakes--to make a world in which all of God's children can live, or to go into the dark....' An announcer breaks in, 'Vote for President Johnson on November 3. The stakes are too high for you to stay home.' Soon Time magazine was reprinting jokes like, 'Goldwater's first major address as President: "Ten ... nine ... eight ... seven...' And, 'What would a Goldwater presidency be like? Brief.'"

Oh how I remember that ad. I saw it many times. What? you ask. Many times? How could that be. After the RNC protested the first and only paid telecast the DNC stopped showing it.

The ad became a NEWS ITEM. The TV network employees reported on it and showed it every night for days! Probably everyone in America with a TV saw it on the "NEWS."

Payback time.

163 posted on 08/05/2004 4:44:18 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

168 posted on 08/05/2004 5:00:30 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: Grig; Ramonan; newgeezer; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Reagan79; b fair; zencat; tobyhill; eno_; ...
I am alittle disappointed in reading this thread :-) granted the fax was unreadable, but am I the only one that noticed this lil nugget?

Please contact us at either of the phone numbers below to advise us regarding the status of this advertisement.

(202) 434-1625
(202) 479-1111

Now I am not encouraging anyone to use these numbers in impropers way at all, /sarcam I just thought it was facinating that real numbers are just out in this story, screaming "call me!"... Bet The Lawyer's Party'll never do this again.


172 posted on 08/05/2004 5:08:45 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Dreier; Too bad, he was a good guy. Now he's a good example.)
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I have a word-for-word transcript of the Swith Boat Vets from today's hannity radio show up in the Swift Boat Vets on Hannity Radio Show after 4PM EST thread. Direct links to the three parts follow. Read it and you'll see what the RATs HAVE to kill this ad and then the book.

part 1

part 2

part 3

182 posted on 08/05/2004 6:03:06 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("I actually was going to throw like a man before I threw like a girl." JFK 7/25/2004)
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O'Reilly and Dick Morris are trashing the ad.

The are both idiots.


198 posted on 08/05/2004 8:17:04 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Hey, RNC! Get Bob Dylan to sing "Saving Grace" at the Convention!)
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Remember that first ad we saw with GW stating at the beginning "My name is George Bush and I approve this ad"?

We were not used to this and thought it a little weird. Now it makes great sense. Our president can say that only the ads with his opening statement can be connected to him.

Perfect advanced thinking and strategery.

Leni

211 posted on 08/05/2004 9:37:37 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Stop Global Whining)
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By the party of Tim Robbins who said he was being muzzled!!


212 posted on 08/05/2004 9:41:47 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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Truth is an absolute defense. Liars know this.


215 posted on 08/05/2004 10:26:57 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "If the Lord God is your Copilot, you need to change seats." (d,v,c)
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TORT LAWYERS FOR KERRY

Are these some of the six thousand that Kerry has hired to dispute the election counts when looses? If so then he's using them a little early most people do not like lawyers and courthouses.

218 posted on 08/05/2004 11:40:36 PM PDT by fella
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Just FYI, I went to swiftvets.com and clicked on the "donate" button, and it wouldn't come up. Said this page cannot be displayed. Has someone hacked their site? Maybe someone who knows more than I do about this (which wouldn't be hard) could check it out?

Carolyn

220 posted on 08/06/2004 3:21:07 AM PDT by CDHart (I'm not crazy. I've just been in a bad mood for 40 years. [Steel Magnolias])
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Here is a letter that I sent to Gromer Jeffers, Wayne Slater, and Tim Connolly of the Dallas Morning News asking them what plans they have to report on the Swift Boat Veterans' ad the journalistic improprieties of the Boston Globe's Mike Kranish.

I would urge others to write Mr. Jeffers, Mr. Slater, and Mr. Connolly and ask them the same thing in your own words.

Be nice -- if we can get one major newspaper to report this story then others will follow.

I built my letter around one written by another Freeper but I can't seem to find it now. If someone figures it out who I plagiarized it from please ping them and pass along my thanks for a great letter.

-DallasMike

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Boston Globe reporter Mike Kranish reported earlier today that "a key figure in the anti-Kerry campaign, Kerry's former commanding officer [George Elliott], backed off one of the key contentions."

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth issued a statement a little later that has Mr. Elliott claiming that the Kranish article is "extremely inaccurate" and that it “highly misstated his actual views.” Captain Elliott reaffirmed his original affidavit and requested that the ad still be played.

Get this, however – Kranish is the author of the forthcoming official book on the Kerry-Edwards campaign called Kerry and Edwards:  Their Plans and Promises! Not only that, the Boston Globe has assigned him to cover the Kerry campaign. Why is the author of a fawning campaign book on John Kerry masquerading as an unbiased reporter and why is the Boston Globe allowing him to do this?

This is an amazing conflict of interest and downright journalistic malpractice. What plans does the Dallas Morning News have to report on Mr. Kranish’s impropriety? Has the Dallas Morning News contacted George Elliott to verify that Mr. Kranish really did misstate his views? Does anyone at the Dallas Morning News even care?

 -Michael XXXXXXX

 Garland, Texas


228 posted on 08/06/2004 2:10:45 PM PDT by DallasMike
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The absolutely amazing thing about these Democrat whores is their line about none on the Vets for truth having been in the same boat as Kerry. It is not clear whether these ignorant souls are trying to say that the boats traveled in an astonishing formation in which they were out of sight range from each other instead of the way they actually did travel and maneuver or whether they are trying to dupe the public into believing that Kerry's boat traveled with a sort of giant shower curtain around it so that those on the companion boats could not see what was going on on Kerry's boat. Susan Tostesterone in particular was particularly assinine with her ignorant lawyer's questioning based on utterly ignorant assumptions.


229 posted on 08/06/2004 10:12:44 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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