Posted on 08/05/2004 2:31:25 PM PDT by Grig
If veterans are not allowed to speak then I figure the next 8.0 earthquake will be at Arlington when the whole lot of them roll over in their graves.
God help America.
"The ad showed a little girl in a field picking petals off a daisy. 'One, two, three, four, five, seven, six, eight, nine,' she counts; then, startled, looks up from the flower. The next scene is of an atomic bomb exploding while Johnson's voice intones, 'These are the stakes--to make a world in which all of God's children can live, or to go into the dark....' An announcer breaks in, 'Vote for President Johnson on November 3. The stakes are too high for you to stay home.' Soon Time magazine was reprinting jokes like, 'Goldwater's first major address as President: "Ten ... nine ... eight ... seven...' And, 'What would a Goldwater presidency be like? Brief.'"
Oh how I remember that ad. I saw it many times. What? you ask. Many times? How could that be. After the RNC protested the first and only paid telecast the DNC stopped showing it.
The ad became a NEWS ITEM. The TV network employees reported on it and showed it every night for days! Probably everyone in America with a TV saw it on the "NEWS."
Payback time.
Then being a lawyer you know that the primary reason for this is to give liberal station managers cover to refuse to air this "controversial ad" and th bully others into not doing it. Even if he DID file a suit, the only purpose would be to get an injunction until after the election to prevent them from airing it.
President Bush has been accused of:
-- Knowing in advance about the 9/11 attacks
-- Lying to the American people about the threat from Iraq
-- Being AWOL from his National Guard service
That's off the top of my head. No lawsuits so far.
SENT EMAIL TO DNC Loser Lawyer
Dear Sir:
This ad must really have touched a nerve at the DNC to threaten law suits against a group of people simply excersizing their FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT. Truth hurts doesn't it...and your claims are specious--at no time did they claim to serve ON KERRY'S BOAT!
Kinda funny that when CONSERVATIVES speak out, you get all girly-man and whine about it. Kerry himself said "bring it on"...so now we do.
I also see that your tactics could be equally applied to Micheal Moore's propaganda film "Fahrenheit 9/11"...but of course, since that is DEMOKrat free speach it's OK isn't it...?
Bring it on girly men...we are not afraid of Kerry, Johnny or their wives.
Wondering if you have the guts to reply, I am a
PROUD AMERICAN FOR PRESIDENT BUSH
Hey, maybe Kerry's handlers could release his Navy medical records and clear this all up. or maybe someone should sue to have them opened...along with his divorce records...
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Haven't they just libeled (or slandered I can never keep that straight) the vets in question? I'm refering to the charges of misrepresentation of who the vets are/were and that their organzation is somehow "phoney". Those were once called "fighting words", but these days folks fight with lawyers, up to a point at least. I'm sure there are plenty of veterans who are darn good lawyers, and would climb all over each other for a chance to do a little "pro bono" work.
If the same rules applied to R's and D's, then we'd have 'em by the short and curlies. They clearly state that they are counsel for the DNC and the Kerry campaign, which would seem evidence of coordination since they both signed the letter.
Please contact us at either of the phone numbers below to advise us regarding the status of this advertisement.
(202) 434-1625
(202) 479-1111
Now I am not encouraging anyone to use these numbers in impropers way at all, /sarcam I just thought it was facinating that real numbers are just out in this story, screaming "call me!"... Bet The Lawyer's Party'll never do this again.
Not trying' to be picky, but to sue for libel you have to be libeled.
I question the ethics of these lawyers in attempting to get stations to not play this ad under threat of a lawsuit that they have no standing to bring. Only Kerry could bring such a suit and these are not John Kerry's personal attorneys.
I honestly think this may be a violation of the Code of Professional Responsibility and borders on extortion.
BUMP !!
If this were true they would be suing Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth, not sending intimidating letters to the broadcasters.
Outstanding. I love it.
Listening to that clip, there is one easy to prove lie in it. Kerry stated that .50 caliber machine guns were the only weapon they (the PCFs) had to use against people. He himself used an M-79 According to swiftboats.net the armament consisted of:
Twin .50-caliber Browning machine guns, with heavy barrels, on a Mark 17/Mod 1 manually operated, twin-scarf-ring mount. Capable of firing at 450-550 RPM and equipped with ammo cans for 500-600 rounds per gun. All located on the boat centerline, in a guntub, mounted on top of the pilothouse and designated "mount 51."
- 81mm Mark 2/Mod 0, trigger fired mortar with a .50-caliber, semi-automatic capable, Browning machine gun, with heavy barrel, fixed atop it, and equipped with an ammo can for 100 or 300 rounds. All mounted to an on centerline fantail tripod and designated "mount 52." It was also referred to as the "over and under weapon."
Typical 81mm ammunition load carried on board, in the stern mounted ready service locker and two main cabin floor lockers was:
- High Explosive w/Point Detonate fuse - 80 rounds
- White Phosphorus w/Point Detonate fuse - 15 rounds
- Flechette (Mark 120/Mod 0) added to the allowance in November 1969
- Illumination w/Time fuse - 20 rounds
- Proximity (Variable Time) fuse - 8 per boat
- Mark 19, 40mm, belt feed, grenade launcher, was installed on the bow of 26 boats, in November/December 1969 time frame.
- various crew member weapons, to include: M-60 machine guns, M-79 grenade launchers with (illumination, high explosive, flechette and 00 buckshot) rounds, M-14 and or M-16 rifles, 12 gauge Ithaca riot gun, .38 caliber or .45 caliber pistols, various types of hand grenades (fragmentation, concussion - M3A1, thermite and red, yellow and green smoke), very pistols (flare gun) and at times, some C-4 explosive.
So Kerry did lie and the SwiftVets are home free. Not that he didn't lie about a whole lot of other things as well, much more important things. But also more difficult to prove at this late date.
On Kerry's own website, he has a PDF file with two of the messages filed from the Medical Officer who treated him. In both cases he was treated by the Medical Officer on a Coast Guard cutter. Both times he was IMMEDIATELY returned to duty. Once his prognosis was listed as good, the other excellent. Those were for the 2nd and 3rd Purple Hearts. They also said do not notify next of kin. All of which indicates the wounds were very minor.
The first wound only needed Bactine according to the doctor who treated Kerry.
Or the NAALCP for the chains behind the pickup truck ad smearing Bush in 2000?
The Swift Vets add looks like it's protected by the First Amendment to me - or wait, no kiddie porn in it so it can't be.
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