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NYPD right to allow religious attire
Newsday ^ | August 5, 2004

Posted on 08/05/2004 12:33:25 PM PDT by presidio9

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To: Modernman

Correction accepted with a sheepish grin.

However, it doesn't change the underlying sentiment that it's maddening when even a police force, which must depend on discipline and uniformity for its effectiveness, has had to yield to these PC weaklings.


21 posted on 08/05/2004 1:09:56 PM PDT by Dad2Angels
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To: Modernman

When they murder their own countries leader while protecting her, they were good until that.
How long before they kill someone because they don't
like their actions.


22 posted on 08/05/2004 1:12:50 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Liberals are like catfish ( all mouth and no brains )(bottom feeders))
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To: Dad2Angels
However, it doesn't change the underlying sentiment that it's maddening when even a police force, which must depend on discipline and uniformity for its effectiveness, has had to yield to these PC weaklings.

Are you calling the Sikhs PC weaklings? That's not something I would recommend saying to a Sikh......

23 posted on 08/05/2004 1:13:10 PM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
When they murder their own countries leader while protecting her, they were good until that. How long before they kill someone because they don't like their actions.

That was a dispute that really has nothing to do with America. Name one instance where a Sikh has committed any type of act against the USA or its government.

Following your logic, we should exclude people of Irish descent from working as cops, based on all the problems in N. Ireland.

I figure, so long as we don't bomb their temple, we should have no problems with them.

24 posted on 08/05/2004 1:18:10 PM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: presidio9
Dear Immigrants, You are in America now. Lose the hats and costumes and assimilate!
25 posted on 08/05/2004 1:20:16 PM PDT by petercooper (In the end, Democrats are just a bunch of jackasses.)
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To: presidio9

Pretty soon it will be cross dressing male officers wearing skirts. Once the path is clear all hell breaks loose.


26 posted on 08/05/2004 1:23:28 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: presidio9

I understand that Sikhs are also required by their religion to carry a dagger called a kirpan. Will NYPD regulations permit this also?


27 posted on 08/05/2004 1:26:10 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Modernman
Following your logic, we should exclude people of Irish descent from working as cops, based on all the problems in N. Ireland.

Hold on a sec. There is no terrorist activity in The Irish Republic. Northern Ireland is part of Great Britan, not Ireland. Unless Northern Ireland is unjustly occupied by the British, your statement would be more correct by saying "exclude all people of British descent." Personally, I have no opinion on the NI issue, but I find the stange PC lumping of the Irish into the ranks of the terrorists unjust. I know you are defending the sikhs, but leave the Irish out of it.

28 posted on 08/05/2004 1:33:42 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: N. Theknow

Is he a Singh or a Synge?


29 posted on 08/05/2004 1:34:37 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (<A HREF=http://www.michaelmoore.com>stupid blob</A>)
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To: Salman
More recently, two million of them helped fight the Axis
30 posted on 08/05/2004 1:38:56 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (<A HREF=http://www.michaelmoore.com>stupid blob</A>)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
"They"?

I see you have no objections to holding Sikhs collectively responsible for the assassination of Indira Gandhi. Are you as willing to hold white Americans collectively responsible for the destruction of the so-called "Native American" cultures and of the slavery of African-Americans?

31 posted on 08/05/2004 1:40:00 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: presidio9
Unless Northern Ireland is unjustly occupied by the British, your statement would be more correct by saying "exclude all people of British descent."

The terrorism that occurred in Northern Ireland was committed by members of the Irish ethnic group. My statement stands.

I find the stange PC lumping of the Irish into the ranks of the terrorists unjust.

Why? The Irish have committed more than their fair share of terrorism in the last century.

32 posted on 08/05/2004 1:40:07 PM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Modernman

Alright now. I'm not going to get into a silly back and forth on this. I've accepted your correction and reasserted my view on the matter.

the PC weaklings I refer to are the NYPD brass, NY government bureaucrats, and whoever else caved to these demands.

I hope this is now clear enough.


33 posted on 08/05/2004 1:41:11 PM PDT by Dad2Angels
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
You really should look up the details of what happened at the Golden Temple. That temple to the Sikhs was much like the Vatican is to Catholics, Mecca is to Muslims, or Jerusalem is to most Christians. Ghandi ordered that the temple be invaded and shelled on one of the Sikhs holiest days with nearly 10,000 pilgrims inside. Up to 1200 were killed and many more injured and crippled, and the centuries old temple was laid to waste (some of the oldest Sikh texts burned in a library that was set on fire by the Hindu soldiers...when the Sikhs tried to run in and douse the fire or bring some of the texts out to safely, they were gunned down).

Personally, I can understand why they shot her.
34 posted on 08/05/2004 1:44:54 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: sgtbono2002
Pretty soon it will be cross dressing male officers wearing skirts. Once the path is clear all hell breaks loose.

Maybe like that?

Or like that?

35 posted on 08/05/2004 1:49:28 PM PDT by A. Pole (Gen Ripper:"I cannot allow communist infiltration, to sap and impurify, our precious bodily fluids.")
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To: Modernman

Exactly-- Sikhs are historically very good warriors.


36 posted on 08/05/2004 2:08:58 PM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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To: presidio9
Also I think we should be giving these guys paid holiday leave for Ramadan

Why? They are NOT Muslims. Not Hindus either, they are Shiks.

37 posted on 08/05/2004 2:19:07 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: presidio9
Henceforth, the officers will be SUBSTITUTING turbans for the uniform cover.

I've seen that in other cities. They wear the cap device on the front of the turban.

38 posted on 08/05/2004 2:21:23 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: wideminded
I understand that Sikhs are also required by their religion to carry a dagger called a kirpan. Will NYPD regulations permit this also?

What? You think NYPD officers don't carry knives now? The Kirpan is, or can be, purely ceremonial/symbolic blunted and dull. However these guys are going to be carrying Glocks, what's the harm in a discreetly carried dagger?

39 posted on 08/05/2004 2:25:11 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Modernman
I figure, so long as we don't bomb their temple, we should have no problems with them.

What does that have to do with them forcing the NYPD to cater to their dress code?

40 posted on 08/05/2004 2:37:58 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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