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Viet Vets Charge: Kerry Killed Lone, Fleeing Teenage Foe; Lied To Superiors To Gain Medal
Drudge Report ^ | 8/5/04 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 08/05/2004 7:39:18 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Slaughters Animals, Burns Down Tiny Village

**Exclusive**

A veterans group seeking to deeply discredit Democrat John Kerry's military service will charge in the new bombshell book UNFIT FOR COMMAND: "Kerry earned his Silver Star by killing a lone, fleeing, teenage Viet Cong in a loincloth."

"And if Kerry's superiors had known the truth at the time, they would never have recommended him for the medal."

The book also claims to detail how Kerry personally ordered the slaughter of small animals at a small hamlet along the Song Bo De River.

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The book, set for release next week, hit #1 on the AMAZON hitparade after the DRUDGE REPORT revealed details of the book -- a book the Kerry camapign believes is the"the dirtiest of all dirty tricks ever played on a candidate for the presidency."

The Kerry campaign is planning to vigorously counter the charges and will accuse the veteran's groups of being well-financed by a top Bush donor from Texas.

The vets have launched a blistering new TV commercial questioning Kerry's honor and calling him a liar.

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George Bates, an officer in Coastal Division 11, participated in numerous operations with Kerry. In UNFIT FOR COMMAND, Bates recalls a particular patrol with Kerry on the Song Bo De River. He is still "haunted" by the incident:

With Kerry in the lead, the boats approached a small hamlet with three or four grass huts. Pigs and chickens were milling around peacefully. As the boats drew closer, the villagers fled. There were no political symbols or flags in evidence in the tiny village. It was obvious to Bates that existing policies, decency, and good sense required the boats to simply move on.

Instead, Kerry beached his boat directly in the small settlement. Upon his command, the numerous small animals were slaughtered by heavy-caliber machine guns. Acting more like a pirate than a naval officer, Kerry disembarked and ran around with a Zippo lighter, burning up the entire hamlet.

Bates has never forgotten Kerry's actions.

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UNFIT FOR COMMAND, DRUDGE has learned, claims Kerry "earned his Silver Star by killing a lone, fleeing, teenage Viet Cong in a loincloth."

ARE THE VETS TELLING THE TRUTH?

"They hired a goddamn private investigator to dig up trash!" charged a top Kerry adviser traveling with the senator late Tuesday. "This is pay for play... How low can they go?"

Kerry supporters are comparing the effort by the veterans to the Arkansas State troopers tell-all against Bill Clinton.

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John O'Neill, co-author of UNFIT FOR COMMAND, believes that "Kerry's Star would never have been awarded had his actions been reviewed through normal channels. In his case, he was awarded the medal two days after the incident with no review. The medal was arranged to boost the morale of Coastal Division 11, but it was based on false and incomplete information provided by Kerry himself."

According to Kerry's Silver Star citation, Kerry was in command of a three-boat mission on the Dong Cung River. As the boats approached the target area, they came under intense enemy fire. Kerry ordered his boat to attack and all boats opened fire.

He then beached directly in front of the enemy ambushers. In the battle that followed, the crews captured enemy weapons. His boat then moved further up the river to suppress more enemy fire. A rocket exploded near Kerry's boat, and he ordered to charge the enemy. Kerry beached his boat 10 feet from the rocket position and led a landing party ashore to pursue the enemy.

Kerry' citation reads: "The extraordinary daring and personal courage of Lt. Kerry in attacking a numerically superior force in the face of intense fire were responsible for the highly successful mission."

Here's what O'Neill and the Swiftees say: "According to Kerry's crewman Michael Madeiros, Kerry had an agreement with him to turn the boat in and onto the beach if fired upon. Each of the three boats involved in the operation was involved in the agreement." O'Neill writes that one crewman even recalls a discussion of probable medals.

Doug Reese, a pro Kerry Army veteran, recounted what happened that day to O'Neill, "Far from being alone, the boats were loaded with many soldiers commanded by Reese and two other advisors. When fired at, Reese's boat--not Kerry's--was the first to beach in the ambush zone. Then Reese and other troops and advisors (not Kerry) disembarked, killing a number of Viet Cong and capturing a number of weapons. None of the participants from Reese's boat received Silver Stars.

O'Neill continues: "Kerry's boat moved slightly downstream and was struck by a rocket-propelled grenade. . . .A young Viet Cong in a loincloth popped out of a hole, clutching a grenade launcher, which may or may not have been loaded. . . Tom Belodeau, a forward gunner, shot the Viet Cong with an M-60 machine gun in the leg as he fled. . . . Kerry and Medeiros (who had many troops in their boat) took off, perhaps with others, and followed the young Viet Cong and shot him in the back, behind a lean to."

O'Neill concludes "Whether Kerry's dispatching of a fleeing, wounded, armed or unarmed teenage enemy was in accordance with the customs of war, it is very clear that many Vietnam veterans and most Swiftees do not consider this action to be the stuff of which medals of any kind are awarded; nor would it even be a good story if told in the cold details of reality. There is no indication that Kerry ever reported that the Viet Cong was wounded and fleeing when dispatched. Likewise, the citation simply ignores the presence of the soldiers and advisors who actually 'captured the enemy weapons' and routed the Viet Cong. . . . [and] that Kerry attacked a 'numerically superior force in the face of intense fire' is simply false. There was little or no fire after Kerry followed the plan. . . . The lone, wounded, fleeing young Viet Cong in a loincloth was hardly a force superior to the heavily armed Swift Boat and its crew and the soldiers carried aboard."

DRUDGE learns from UNFIT FOR COMMAND that if Kerry's superior officers knew the truth, they would never have recommended the award:

"Admiral Roy Hoffmann, who sent a Bravo Zulu (meaning "good work"), to Kerry upon learning of the incident, was very surprised to discover in 2004 what had actually occurred. Hoffmann had been told that Kerry had spontaneously beached next to the bunker and almost single-handedly routed a bunkered force in Viet Cong. He was shocked to find out that Kerry had beached his boat second in a preplanned operation, and that he had killed a single, wounded teenage foe as he fled."

"Commander Geoge Elliott, who wrote up the initial draft of Kerry's Silver Star citation, confirms that neither he, nor anyone else in the Silver Star process that he knows, realized before 1996 that Kerry was facing a single, wounded young Viet Cong fleeing in a loincloth. While Commander Elliott and many other Swiftees believe that Kerry committed no crime in killing the fleeing, wounded enemy (with a loaded or empty launcher), others feel differently. Commander Elliott indicates that a Silver Star recommendation would not have been made by him had he been aware of the actual facts."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cowardkerry; election2004; johnfkerry; johnoneill; kerry; swiftboatveterans; unfitforcommand; vietnamvets
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To: Brilliant

"Kerry has always said that he committed attrocities. This isn't news."

- Yeah, but did he ever tell us that he got his medals for doing so? THATS NEWS!


161 posted on 08/05/2004 10:27:28 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
OH HAPPY DAYS...the lid is rattling and the boiling is about to blow the lid right off this treasonist coward's lies. Hanoi John Kerry...eat SH!T Any Vietnam Vet who votes for Kerry is suffering from PTSD or worse!
162 posted on 08/05/2004 10:27:52 AM PDT by FlyLow (Kerry and Edwards can only be called patriots if patriotism is defined as hating your country.)
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To: Morgan in Denver
Otherwise, he remains a POW survivor. I don't mean to diminish the horror of being a POW and McCain certainly deserves respect for suffering the experience, but surviving a bad experience in war time does not equal heroism.

I believe McCain himself has made that point.

163 posted on 08/05/2004 10:28:45 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Ann Archy

According to his wife of 8 years, sKerry STILL has screaming nightmares of Viet Nam.."Down...Down...Down"!! thats what SHE says he does...

I have a visual of what he is really saying to Theresa, and what he is really saying is HER NIGHTMARE!!! DOWN-DOWN, etc.


164 posted on 08/05/2004 10:33:52 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ProudGOP
"I hope the Bush camp ignores this stuff. "

- I strongly disagree. Kerry's handlers are already trying to tie the Bush campaign to the Vets testimony and label it a "dirty trick". Bush has got to immediately distance himself from the story by saying he neither funded or encouraged it, and that it would be a great shame- if true. This is what Lurch has been saying all along on the AWOL story. Bush cannot remain silent - the MSM would take it as an admission of guilt.
165 posted on 08/05/2004 10:35:15 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Grampa Dave
Hmmmm! Very interesting thought.

Got a link to the Max Boot article posted on FreeRepublic:

Kerry's Three-Faced Foreign Policy

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Are you using Firefox? I just downloaded an extension called Bugmenot and used it to get access to the article on the website.... I think this forced registration crap has just been defeated!!!!

166 posted on 08/05/2004 10:42:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
-- a book the Kerry camapign believes is the"the dirtiest of all dirty tricks ever played on a candidate for the presidency."

I guess they forgot the "Daisy" ad run by the Democrat who Forbesed up the Vietnam War. Or MoveOn.org's remake of it in conjunction with operation Iraqi Freedom.

The original LBJ ad can be viewed Here

167 posted on 08/05/2004 10:42:23 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Holicheese
This story will have legs - this is only the first installment that Drudge is excerpting over the coming days. Still to come are the stories from POW's in North Vietnam who were forced to listen to Kerry's testimony after he got back to the US and admit that they too were similarly guilty of war crimes. There are also more stories of undeserved medals still to come. Kerry will be forced to authorize the release of all his service records to refute the charges. If he doesn't, he's toast and if he does, he's still toast.
Bwahahahah!
168 posted on 08/05/2004 10:44:44 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Ann Archy
"According to his wife of 8 years, sKerry STILL has screaming nightmares of Viet Nam.."Down...Down...Down"!! thats what SHE says he does"

- Then again, maybe Slick once told him that you had to be forceful with chicks if he wanted to have his very own Monica experience and he was trying it out on Teresa to see if the advice would work. Teresa just misunderstood, is all.
169 posted on 08/05/2004 10:57:58 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: jamaksin
The establishment media will do the same "bob and weave" here ... their goal is ABB ... "Anybody But Bush."

Actually "anybody but a Republican the right of John McCain.". Liar, traitor, criminal, they don't care, just as long as it's not a "right winger".

170 posted on 08/05/2004 10:58:34 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: alloysteel
transferred to a ship far from the war zone).

Actually to a staff job back in the US. He was on a destroyer, where he was the Public Affairs Officer, before he became a Swift boat CO.

171 posted on 08/05/2004 11:00:51 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: maryz

I did not know McCain acknowledged his being a survivor, as opposed to a hero. If he did, I will elevate my impression of him. My response comes from someone like McCain entering the fray of discussion where he defends Kerry at the expense of other veterans. Kerry is a disgrace to the uniform he once wore and McCain is wrong to support him.


172 posted on 08/05/2004 11:01:28 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: lonevoice
""Senator Kerry, in Congressional testimony you told us you committed atrocities and war crimes. Now you tell us these swiftboat veterans who agree with you are lying. Which is it Senator Kerry? Were you lying then, or are you lying now?"

- MAJOR PING!!!! YES, YES, YES!!
Kerry Headquarters - Memo to Staff:
Do not, repeat, do not allow the Senator to accept any campaign appearances at military bases for the remainder of the campaign.)
173 posted on 08/05/2004 11:03:59 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: biblewonk
I'm convinced the main reason Hanoi John protested the Viet Nam war was because the war gave him the opportunity to reveal a side of himself that he didn't like.

These days, having married TaRAYzah, he probably hates what he sees in the mirror now as much as ever.

Thanks for the ping.

174 posted on 08/05/2004 11:04:59 AM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
This article has been posted to DoctorZin’s New News Blog!


175 posted on 08/05/2004 11:06:08 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

"They hired a goddamn private investigator to dig up trash!"

Ya know what if ya dig up a murder victim in a landfill it doesn't make it anyless of a murder.


176 posted on 08/05/2004 11:09:17 AM PDT by DaiHuy (MUST HAVE JUST BEEN BORN THAT WAY...)
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To: maryz
"I'll bet Hunt is close to the top of the list when the talking points are faxed! (I think there's a thread on Hunt's column, under the title "Sham Charges Against a War Hero.")

- Perhaps someone should send an e-mail to Hunt questioning on what basis is he alleging that so many decorated Vietnam veterans are liars. Also, which ones and what were their lies - be specific,Hunt.
177 posted on 08/05/2004 11:11:34 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Sloth
Kerry has always clarified that remark by saying that just engaging in a fight in a free fire zone goes against the Geneva convention rules of war...he has always kept it very general...he has never implied that he killed someone close up and personal. Big difference between collective responsibility and personal responsibility IMHO.

One thought I do have is about both his wives saying that he wakes up with night terrors...maybe the killing of this guy haunts him and maybe his anti-war stance was genuine but he should have left out the accusations against our soldiers and he should be honest with us now instead of trying to obscure his own record. I had decided that he was a major liar when he kept calling Vietnam Nixon's war...hello...what about JFK and Johnson? The Democrats conveniently forget their own history.

178 posted on 08/05/2004 11:16:35 AM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: Credo
The thing I really don't get about McCain in all this is why he backs Kerry when Kerry was selling him and the rest of his fellow POWs down the river after Kerry came back.

I suspect a job offer for McCain in a Kerry administration. Secretary of Defense perhaps?

179 posted on 08/05/2004 11:16:50 AM PDT by afnamvet (USAF Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 NOT FONDA KERRY!)
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To: Grampa Dave
bump!

180 posted on 08/05/2004 11:17:24 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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