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To: azcap

Did the Underground Railroaders lie to slaves? Did the families that hid Jews lie to them, "for their own good?"

Until then, your comparisons are specious. Until then, he's still a lying scumbag and a terrible reflecion on conservatives.

If you don't like the laws, work to change them. Don't lie to and mislead people in an attempt to get around the laws.

Or do we only care about the "rule of law" when it comes to Democrats?


35 posted on 08/05/2004 10:17:22 AM PDT by horatio
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To: horatio
Did the Underground Railroaders lie to slaves? Did the families that hid Jews lie to them, "for their own good?" Until then, your comparisons are specious. Until then, he's still a lying scumbag and a terrible reflecion on conservatives. If you don't like the laws, work to change them. Don't lie to and mislead people in an attempt to get around the laws. Or do we only care about the "rule of law" when it comes to Democrats?

You just sank your own boat with your analogies, pal. The fact of the matter is, the Underground Railroaders routinely lied to those chasing fugitive slaves and broke laws intended to help in the capture of runaways.

Likewise, those who hid Jews routinely lied in order to protect them from the Nazis and their sympathizers.

In this case, the victim is the innocent baby, and the persecutor is the mother who has been duped or convinced that killing her child is the best solution to her perceived problems.

Thanks for your help!
40 posted on 08/05/2004 10:26:08 AM PDT by Antoninus (With friends like these, who needs enemies?)
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To: horatio
To make your analogy true, the man accused would have to be lying to the babies at risk for abortion, not to the women who are considering abortion.

No one should lie except to save life and liberty, and then I'd still be uncomfortable lying, myself. But, with Biblical example of Rahab and the historical examples given here of the slavery abolitionists and those who protected Jews in Nazi Germany, there appear to be times when society has approved of the choice to lie.

On the other hand (if the charges are true), the statement could be a case of not telling the whole truth or misleading by making a statement based on truth.

At any stage of pregnancy, an abortion is a risk to a woman's health and to the health of future babies she might someday have.

The "elective" abortion is by definition an "elective" procedure - one that could be delayed or forgone completely with no risk to life or health. Even urgent or emergency abortions carry a risk which must be balanced against the risk of no procedure.

For all abortion, there is an increased risk of future premature births, with concomitant risk of cerebral palsy.
50 posted on 08/05/2004 11:15:23 AM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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