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Illinois GOP picks Alan Keyes to run against Obama!
illinoisleader.com ^ | August 4, 2004

Posted on 08/04/2004 6:13:51 PM PDT by tame

It's official! Yahoo!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; alankicksbutt; classicdebates; debatesforhistory; goalan; gopprimary; historicdebates; illinois; keyes
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To: Luis Gonzalez
ideology above your principles,

What is the difference/relationship between ideology and principles?

781 posted on 08/04/2004 9:16:36 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: tame
"Evil" is a good word, and that is exactly what those rats are."

They are American citizens, free to express themselves every bit as you are. Free to form their own opinions, and to try to elevate their political ideology via the systems set forth in our Constitution.

When you demean them to the level that you do, you violate the principles that this country was founded on.

I don't agree with them, and I will work in great earnest to defeat them at the voting booth, but I will lay down my life defending their right to have a say in our government.

782 posted on 08/04/2004 9:16:40 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: FITZ
Nothing...why should I?

And IF Alan deigns to accept the crown,he'll get the nominal nod from President Bush.

Are you THAT unaware of how politics works?

783 posted on 08/04/2004 9:17:10 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: outlawcam

Political ideology.


784 posted on 08/04/2004 9:17:13 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Bold face, or caps is not going to make any difference.

ARE YOU SURE?????


785 posted on 08/04/2004 9:17:19 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: Torie
How many black voters has he attracted in the past?

Has he run against a black before, or a pro-abortion, very liberal black?

786 posted on 08/04/2004 9:17:25 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Howlin

Since Obama has a lock on the race, he will seek out debates with Keyes one, two, three, many times. He will seek it to make him a national figure, sort of like the Lincoln Douglas debates. He has nothing to lose, and much to gain. As I said, my money is that Keyes does not run.


787 posted on 08/04/2004 9:17:57 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Luis Gonzalez

You're just repeating yourself without answering the question: WHY is is wrong? Are you really that offended at me calling leftists evil??? You have a real problem with that word, so you probably didn't like terms like "axis of evil", "evil empire", etc.


788 posted on 08/04/2004 9:18:55 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: FITZ

No, he has run against white liberals, and Bush, and got almost no black voters.


789 posted on 08/04/2004 9:18:56 PM PDT by Torie
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To: outlawcam

790 posted on 08/04/2004 9:19:30 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: tame
"Funny, that's what the left says about the word evil as in phrases such as, oh, "evil empire" (Reagan), "axis of Evil" (Bush)."

When did either Reagan or Bush use the word "evil" to describe American citizens?

As a matter of fact, when did they use the term to describe anything other than a system of government, or a political ideology?

Don't flatter yourself here, neither Ronnie or Bush would stoop to the level that you're stooping to here.

791 posted on 08/04/2004 9:19:52 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Keyes could not get enough conservatives to watch his TV show to keep it runnin for even six months. He talks over people, not to them.

Keyes' qualifications to be senator from Illinois;

Beliefs -- conservative -- good.
Personality -- self-centered crybaby -- bad.
Residency -- carpetbagger -- so what!!

792 posted on 08/04/2004 9:19:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: LandOfLincolnGOP

I understand your point, but the next question is why is the race considered unwinnable? It would be winnnable by a highly qualifed candidate such as Peter Fizgerald. So why are there no highly qualified Pubbie candidates in this race? It all starts there. If you have a strong enough candidate then the GOP will provide the cash to fund your campaign. I'm going all the way back to the most fundamental reasons why we don't have a strong candidate in this race and never did. You're thinking more tactically about the current situation of trying to find someone to run right now against Obama.


793 posted on 08/04/2004 9:20:28 PM PDT by carl in alaska (I am not a digital brownshirt. I had a brown shirt once, but my dog chewed it up.)
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To: outlawcam
If you don't go to threads with good news about the president screaming BUSHBOT and trying to undercut the president,claiming that he doesn't deserve your vote,then what Howlin and I have posted about that,has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with you. :-)
794 posted on 08/04/2004 9:21:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: seamole

ONE OF THE BEST BLACK CONSERVATIVES EVER
One of the best conservatives PERIOD!>>

One of the very few conservatives, I wish more republicans would be like him.


795 posted on 08/04/2004 9:22:02 PM PDT by Coleus (Brooke Shields killed her children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: Torie

And the black voters did vote for the white liberals or Bush when they ran against Keyes?


796 posted on 08/04/2004 9:22:43 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: MJY1288
Alan Keyes will destroy Obama in the debates

It doesn't look that way. Obama is very strong. Is Obama a natural born American citizen? He will take the nomination away from Hillary.

797 posted on 08/04/2004 9:23:04 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: AppyPappy
I'll never catch up with this thread but I think you've put it best. When the time comes to appoint judges and break the 60 vote threshold conservatives would do well by supporting and electing a guy like Keyes. Everything else is secondary.

Think about Supreme Court nominations and funding for the war on terror; bickering does nothing more than provide obvious advantage to the left.

798 posted on 08/04/2004 9:23:14 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Live Strong)
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To: Jorge
Keyes had his chance to "reach an entirely new audience with his conservative message" with a Cable TV show no less. He bombed big time.

1.No one watches MSNBC.
2. A cable TV show was obviously not his element. Debates and speeches are, big-time!

Oh no! Huber called us "Girlie-men"!!!! We demand you post an apology on every active FR thread for penance. MAYBE we will forgive you.

Hey, it felt good! I'll tell ya what, I'll buy ya some flowers or something. You like petunias? /lol

799 posted on 08/04/2004 9:23:41 PM PDT by Huber (Kerry/Edwards = "Tax 'em & Sue 'em" . Vote Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Fifth Business
I have to confess to you...I'm a Marine Corps brat--born in PA but moved around my whole life--and do not get caught up in the nuances of state-to-state culture. I've been in Texas for the last seven years. All I know is that people are much more polite to me in the South than they are in the North, but northerners are good people at heart and usually pretty darned entertaining. If anyone here did not approve of my taste in chili, we might get a laugh out of it, but I think they'd be pretty tolerant.

On the flip side, I lauged my butt off when Kerry asked for Swiss cheese on his Philly Cheesesteak from Pat's King of Steaks. As it is, I can't get down here what I used to get up there on my cheesesteak: Cheese Whiz! :)

I guess it just depends on the attachment that we have to particular elements of our respective cultures. Hot dogs? For me, as few as possible, except when the ambiance demands it. :)

800 posted on 08/04/2004 9:23:58 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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