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'They had their guns pointing at two Asian lads'
ScotsMan.com ^ | 8/5/04 | Dan McDougall

Posted on 08/04/2004 6:07:27 PM PDT by LibWhacker

AS a team of undercover officers from Scotland Yard’s counter-terrorism unit surrounded a car on a residential street in the Preston Road area of Blackburn on Tuesday morning, dozens of residents, alerted by the sound of shouting and screeching brakes outside, ran to their front windows, simultaneously captivated and terrified by the surreal events on their doorstep.

Tincie Hill, 27, watched as a team of heavily-armed officers surrounded a gold Mercedes saloon on the street outside her house.

She said: "One of the police cars had blocked the Mercedes at the front and another car down its side.

"Both of the men in the car were Asian. The driver had a beard. The passenger was laid in the gutter. Two policemen had guns trained on him.

"The driver was on his knees at the back of the car with guns pointing at him as well."

Her neighbour Ruth Lazell, 40, also saw the incident unfold outside her front gate.

She recalled: "There were armed police officers telling us to go back inside the house, about 15 or 20 of them in all.

"They had their guns pointing at two Asian lads who were on the floor outside the car.

"There were four other police officers there who had blue forensic suits on.

"The officers put plastic bags around the two Asian lads’ arms and legs and then put what looked like white paper suits over the rest of them.

"Their hands were tied together and then they were taken away."

The two women in Blackburn were not alone in what they saw.

Witnesses across England described how armed officers had similarly swooped into their streets on Tuesday morning in a series of related couter-terrorism raids in London, Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire, as well as Blackburn.

Scotland Yard said two arrests had been made in Blackburn; one in Watford, Hertfordshire; one in Luton, Bedfordshire; five in Willesden, north London - with one person later released; one in Wembley, north London; one in Sudbury, north London, and two in Paddington, London.

By mid-afternoon yesterday, the Home Office had confirmed that those arrested were all Muslim men in their twenties and thirties.

They were apprehended on suspicion of being concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism.

A matter of hours after the raids all the suspects had been transferred at high-speed to Paddington Green police station in central London to be interviewed by officers from the Metropolitan Police’s Anti- Terrorist Branch.

In Luton witnesses said an Asian man was pulled from his car by seven armed police officers as he pulled into a side street off the A6 Bedford Road.

Leigh Mayes, 70, who saw the undercover operation from the window of his house, said officers carrying semi-automatic weapons, held the man against his maroon hatchback for nearly three hours while forensic teams carried out searches.

He said: "They must have followed him. They had him outside, handcuffed, and stood with him.

"They just stood there in the blazing sunshine and also throughout the heavy storm."

Roger Walker, who lives next door to a house in Bushey, Hertfordshire, that was raided at the same time, gave an account of events.

He said: "When I got home around 3pm on Tuesday there were police cars and policemen all over the place.

"A police van and a people- carrier were backed up to the front door and officers were going in and out of the house.

"I was told they couldn’t tell me anything at that time but I would be told what was going on later. They later told me they would be here all night and the next day.

"Two officers have been standing guard on the patio at the back of the house all night and there have been two at the front as well."

Mr Walker later said an Indian couple, in their fifties, live at the house with their son, who he thought was in his early twenties. Their daughter, also in her twenties, married and moved out two weeks ago.

He added: "Quite often people would be coming and going from the house, but they never made any noise and there was certainly nothing to suggest anything suspicious.

"About three years ago, the daughter became very religious and soon after the son did too."


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: biochem; chemical; papersuits; safetygear; scotland; terrorism; wmd; yard
The officers put plastic bags around the two Asian lads’ arms and legs and then put what looked like white paper suits over the rest of them.

Sounds like Scotland Yard believed these "lads" had some kind of biochemical agent in their possession.

1 posted on 08/04/2004 6:07:28 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Is it just me or is the tone of the article decidedly critical of the way these "Asian lads" were treated?


2 posted on 08/04/2004 6:12:07 PM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (You WILL respect my authoritaaah!)
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

Asians are what we call Indians in the UK---they usually aren't troublemakers.


3 posted on 08/04/2004 6:14:29 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

could of been pakistani.


4 posted on 08/04/2004 6:19:47 PM PDT by John Will
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To: Mears
Asians are what we call Indians in the UK

That's not exactly true.... Asians (in the vernacular) can include S. and SE. asia.. Which includes all of the arabs and the Indian Subcontinent.

I don't suppose that Hindi or Bhuddest Indians were arrested. I expect that someone (Moslem) from Saudi Arabia or Pakistan was arrested, from what I read.

/john

5 posted on 08/04/2004 6:24:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: Mears

I thought that the word Asian was used in the UK to describe those of Middle Eastern descent.


6 posted on 08/04/2004 6:28:27 PM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (You WILL respect my authoritaaah!)
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

it held some criticism, but it also pointed out the suspicious behaviours. (the son and daughter suddenly became religous)


7 posted on 08/04/2004 6:31:30 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: MacDorcha

"...it also pointed out the suspicious behaviours. (the son and daughter suddenly became religous)"

True.

I just didn't care for the critical tone regarding the actions of the law enforcement officers.


8 posted on 08/04/2004 6:50:23 PM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (You WILL respect my authoritaaah!)
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To: LibWhacker; swarthyguy; Coop
Agreed...

There were four other police officers there who had blue forensic suits on.

Sounds like it is a race against time..

9 posted on 08/04/2004 6:59:57 PM PDT by Dog (Edwards threatening Al Qaeda is like Pee Wee Herman threatening Lucca Brazzi.)
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

In the UK where most uniformed police don't carry firearms the sight of a US-style felony stop would be rather unsettling.

To us, it's just business as usual.Street survival 101.


10 posted on 08/04/2004 7:36:12 PM PDT by lightman
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To: Cindy; Alamo-Girl; FairOpinion; Shermy
"There were four other police officers there who had blue forensic suits on. "The officers put plastic bags around the two Asian lads’ arms and legs and then put what looked like white paper suits over the rest of them.
11 posted on 10/04/2004 8:51:42 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

Nope, it wasn't just you. "Officers with semiautomatic weapons." End of the world stuff there...


12 posted on 10/04/2004 8:56:26 PM PDT by Billthedrill (Support FR - become a monthly donor!)
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AUGUST 2004 : (UK & ITALY : ASSASSINATION PLOTS FOILED?) In August, they captured someone who was setting things up near Tony Blair's country residence, and also someone was caught near Berlusconi's place.----Source: freeper 231 posted on 09/19/2004 11:40:38 PM PDT by patriciaruth

AUGUST 1, 2004 Sunday : (TERROR ALERTS FOR US EAST COAST & WARNINGS OF LONDON, UK BEING A TARGET) terror alerts for cities on the East Coast and warnings that London might be a target for terrorists. ----- "Virgin flight at SFO halted - Suspicious behavior of passengers was reported to officials," by Steve Rubenstein and Charlie Goodyear, sfgate.com, Tuesday, August 3, 2004, http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/08/03/SFO.TMP

AUGUST 2, 2004 Monday : (SF, CA TO LONDON, UK VIRGIN ATLANTIC FLIGHT IS CANCELLED : 1 DRUNK GUY, 5 ROMANIAN PASSENGERS REMOVED FROM FLIGHT) ' ----- "Virgin flight at SFO halted - Suspicious behavior of passengers was reported to officials," by Steve Rubenstein and Charlie Goodyear, sfgate.com, Tuesday, August 3, 2004, http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/08/03/SFO.TMP

AUGUST 2004 early, before the 6th : (UK : BRITISH POLICE ARREST BABAR AHMAD ON A US EXTRADITION WARRANT CHARGING HE WAS AIDING THE TALIBAN) British police arrested Ahmad, 30, ... on a U.S. extradition warrant charging that he used the Internet to help Taliban fighters recruit and raise money. -------- "Former San Diego-Based Sailor Allegedly E-Mailed Terror Suspect (Mohammed the sailor man!?)," by Seth Hettena [Associated Press], The San Francisco Chronicle, August 6, 2004 --- Excerpted - click for full article, Source: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/08/06/state2002EDT0119.DTL

AUGUST 6, 2004 Friday : (CONNECTICUT : COURT DOCUMENT IS UNSEALED : IT REVEALS A FORMER US SAILOR HAD BEEN IN SYMPATHETIC COMMUNICATION WITH BABAR AHMAD, WHO WAS IN TURN AIDING THE TALIBAN AND WHO WAS IN POSSESSION OF A CLASSIFIED US NAVY DOCUMENT AT THE TIME OF HIS ARREST) San Diego – A former sailor aboard a San Diego-based ship allegedly praised a deadly terror attack on a U.S. destroyer and communicated with a British man arrested on suspicion of having terrorist ties, according to a court document unsealed Friday. The sailor on the USS Benfold, whose name has not been released, allegedly sympathized with the jihad cause and sent e-mails to anti-Western Web sites run by Babar Ahmad. British police arrested Ahmad, 30, earlier this week on a U.S. extradition warrant charging that he used the Internet to help Taliban fighters recruit and raise money. ...E-mails the former sailor allegedly wrote Ahmad were disclosed in a 33-page arrest warrant affidavit unsealed Friday in Connecticut, where [babar] Ahmad was charged with providing material support to terrorists. The court papers also said Ahmad possessed a classified U.S. Navy document, though authorities have not accused the sailor of providing him that document. -------- "Former San Diego-Based Sailor Allegedly E-Mailed Terror Suspect (Mohammed the sailor man!?)," by Seth Hettena [Associated Press], The San Francisco Chronicle, August 6, 2004 --- Excerpted - click for full article, Source: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/08/06/state2002EDT0119.DTL

13 posted on 10/04/2004 8:59:37 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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