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Ex-POWs: North Vietnamese Jailers Used Kerry's 'War Crimes' Speech
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| 8/04/04
| Carl Limbacher
Posted on 08/04/2004 12:53:43 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
My dad is a Vietnam Vet and a democrat.
He even serves on local Dem committees (e's also a NE University Professor)
He told me he would never vote for Kerry. He can't stand the guy.
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posted on
08/04/2004 1:50:16 PM PDT
by
Republican Red
(Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
To: dcoleum
Your dad was in the NVA Right? Now over here Kerry is a Traitor to his Country and entire generation;Second part George W was flying Jets Anything else?
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posted on
08/04/2004 1:50:31 PM PDT
by
Fast1
To: dcoleum
I do not trust someone that would serve on the field of battle then return to slander the activities of those that he served with. Regardless of where Bush was in 71. I cannot accept your statement that Kerry was trying to make this country better. That is the standard tripe form his campaign.
John Forbes Kerry betrayed his fellow soldiers, claimed that he committed war crimes under orders from his government or superiors, yet when pressed about the issues to day, he refuse to speak of it, but is more that happy to bandy his metals about. Get a clue this snake is a political opportunist.
Before you go off say that there were war crimes committed in Vietnam. Aside for My Lai show me the facts on soldiers investigated or charged with War crimes in Vietnam.
I suggest you really look at Mr. Kerry's Record outside the DNC looking glass.
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posted on
08/04/2004 1:50:34 PM PDT
by
Americanwolf
(America! Love it, or my 550 pound lowland gorilla will be more than happy to show you the door.)
To: dcoleum
Just what we need in the White House, an old lying twerp.
I appreciate your Dad's service in Viet Nam and he is entitled to his own thoughts on Kerry. But for me, I don't want Kerry making decision on Foreign or National policies. The guy is 100% a politician from the get-go.
Granted, people mature, but in Kerry's case he wanted to be JFK when he was 21 and still has the same ambition, regardless of how he accomplishes his goal.
To: kattracks
![](http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040804/i/r1817091613.jpg)
Democratic Presidential nominee Senator John Kerry (news - web sites) leaps to touch a Vietnam era Huey helicopter at a Vietnam memorial as he stopped to greet supporters along route 61 in Grandview, Iowa, August 4, 2004. Kerry was campaigning on the 'Believe in America' tour, a two week trip across the country that started in Boston Massachusetts following the Democratic National Convention. REUTERS/Mike Segar US ELECTION
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posted on
08/04/2004 1:51:48 PM PDT
by
maggief
To: kattracks; Big Steve; deport; blackie; nickcarraway; Salvation
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posted on
08/04/2004 1:52:33 PM PDT
by
Lady In Blue
(On Election Day,President Bush: "WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER!")
To: dcoleum
You Dad is a Democrat, and those people are faithful to the party.
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posted on
08/04/2004 1:55:36 PM PDT
by
Kackikat
(,Kerry=the counterfeit, GWBush is the real deal!)
To: Kackikat
Never did see the the original post from duodenum but it musta been a real rotten peach.
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posted on
08/04/2004 1:59:26 PM PDT
by
noodler
To: tiamat
I don't feel left out - I knew you'd get to me... just like I know you'll get around to reviewing that over-analytical protracted whine document I sent you
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posted on
08/04/2004 1:59:56 PM PDT
by
King Prout
("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
To: maggiefluffs
![](http://www.scifi.com/tripping/characters/chode/images/chode.gif)
yeah... now we can listen to him brag about when he was on a helecopter from VN.
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posted on
08/04/2004 2:00:38 PM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©®)
To: dcoleum
My Dad's a Vietnam vet, and is behind Kerry 100%. Even if this stuff is true and he was a young lying twerp, he was still committed to making his country a better place. Maybe he was misguided (ever know a 21-yr-old who wasn't?) but he was trying to make a difference. What was Georgie up to in '71?
What does that show about who is more committed to the safety of fellow Americans?
Let's peruse your bravo-sierra statements, just for a moment. First, if he's a "young lying twerp" then Kerry committed perjury in congressional testimony. Perjuring oneself in front of congress cannot be validly interpreted as trying to make "his country a better place". It is criminal - and should be a disqualifying factor for any federal office.
Second, if he wasn't lying, then he committed crimes under the UCMJ for not reporting direct knowledge of the alleged atrocities to the military authorities - and please remember that Senator Kerry was still in the Naval Reserves at the time of his testimony.
In either case, Kerry was not "misguided". He committed a crime - under either scenario.
It doesn't matter a whit who your father supports, BTW. One out of 23 of Kerry's fellow swift boat commanders (from the picture that Kerry likes to use in his campaign) is also on board Kerry's bandwagon. IIRC, 16 or 18 of the other commanders have gone on-record against Kerry.
I'm a Gulf war vet. Does that fact mean that my opinion should be weighted more heavily than yours? Of course not! (But, then again, my opinion is based on facts - not empty rhetoric and contempt).
Finally, President Bush was a trained fighter pilot during the Vietnam war. Senator Kerry was in command of a swift boat, before he either perjured himself or was an accomplice to war crimes (take your pick).
But you'd rather shill for the perjurer or UCMJ criminal.
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posted on
08/04/2004 2:01:00 PM PDT
by
MortMan
(Complacency is an enemy sniper)
To: MortMan
Stated in terms timeless definitive and leaves little play.
Well that about wraps it up for me.and if I've insulted someone I apologise.I thought I saw duodenum and guess I don't know it from dccolon with my bad eyes.I'm medically challenged anyway so time to go.
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posted on
08/04/2004 2:16:17 PM PDT
by
noodler
To: tiamat
Re Freeper dcoleum: "He's dead, Jim!"
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posted on
08/04/2004 2:22:42 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: kattracks
America does not need "Snivel Chamberlain" in the White House!
To: Lady In Blue
John F'n Kerry is a lying traitor ~ Bump!
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posted on
08/04/2004 2:28:31 PM PDT
by
blackie
(Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
To: RoseofTexas
I know it doesn't do any good, but I email quotes from our guys who suffered because of Kerry's treason to all of the liberal press. I have never recieved a reply.
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posted on
08/04/2004 2:30:13 PM PDT
by
mugs99
(Restore the Constitution)
To: King Prout
King Prout wrote:
I don't feel left out - I knew you'd get to me... just like I know you'll get around to reviewing that over-analytical protracted whine document I sent you
Ooooohhhh, ouch.
Please, Sir! May I have another!
:-)
I WILL get to it.
I am just dismally tired .
And the brain is not firing on all synapses.
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posted on
08/04/2004 2:30:20 PM PDT
by
tiamat
("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
To: MeekOneGOP
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posted on
08/04/2004 2:31:49 PM PDT
by
tiamat
("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
To: kattracks
A few months ago I read three books on Vietnam POWs and in one of them, I can't remember which one (probably Survivors by Zalin Grant or A Pow's Story: 2801 Days in Hanoi by Larry Guarino) one of the prisoners mentioned that he was forced under torture or the threat of torture to write a letter to the VVAW. I wonder if those letters were actually sent, and what became of them.
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posted on
08/04/2004 2:39:35 PM PDT
by
jordan8
To: tiamat
you were/are moving - no problem: I have waited 3 years, I can wait a little while longer :)
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posted on
08/04/2004 2:42:18 PM PDT
by
King Prout
("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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