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Ramsey loses bid for state House seat in Michigan
CNN ^ | August 4, 2004 | AP

Posted on 08/04/2004 2:05:17 AM PDT by BulletBobCo

CHARLEVOIX, Michigan (AP) -- John Ramsey came up short Tuesday in his bid for a state House seat after a campaign shadowed by the unsolved murder of his daughter, JonBenet.

Ramsey placed second among six candidates for the Republican nomination in the largely rural district in northern Michigan. He had 4,684 votes, or 24 percent, trailing attorney Kevin Elsenheimer by about 500 votes. Elsenheimer had 27 percent of the vote.

A cloud of suspicion has hung over Ramsey and his wife since the 1996 slaying of 6-year-old JonBenet, but no one has ever been charged. The district attorney and a federal judge in Colorado have said it is likelier that an intruder was responsible, as the parents insist.

Ramsey did not shy away from the JonBenet issue on the campaign trail, and the notoriety of the case helped give him nearly 100 percent name recognition in the district. Ramsey's presence also transformed the campaign into a high-profile race.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: gopprimary; johnramsey

1 posted on 08/04/2004 2:05:17 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

interesting


2 posted on 08/04/2004 2:06:52 AM PDT by GeronL (geocities.com/geronl is back, or will be)
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To: GeronL

I really thought that he would win.

He will be in New York for the convention as a delegate.


3 posted on 08/04/2004 3:25:59 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I don't trust men who inject poison in their faces to remove wrinkles or who are democrats.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

He shouldn't be a delegate after allowing such a tortured existence for his daughter in that grotesque "living doll" fantasy. It's unlikely a stranger was the murder. Let us all thank our lucky stars he didn't win the nomination. I'm sickened that he did so well. Ugh.


4 posted on 08/04/2004 4:36:07 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Tell Asa Hutchinson to restart the border patrol's sweeps for illegals again!!)
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To: BulletBobCo

I'm somewhat surprised that he lost. Was in Charlevoix this past weekend, and there were a lot of Ramsey yard signs. We have friends who know them well (and are very active in the community) and they say they've had a lot of support in that area....obviously not enough.


5 posted on 08/04/2004 4:44:01 AM PDT by PilloryHillary (johnfkerrysucks.com)
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To: BulletBobCo

It just shows not everyone is so quick to elect a murderer to political office.


6 posted on 08/04/2004 5:31:03 AM PDT by Houmatt (I love my wife. You got a problem with that?)
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To: BulletBobCo

Sounds as if he could use a little pick-me-up.


7 posted on 08/04/2004 5:58:36 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Houmatt
It just shows not everyone is so quick to elect a murderer to political office.

Where was the trial and who was he convicted of killing?

8 posted on 08/04/2004 6:50:18 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I don't trust men who inject poison in their faces to remove wrinkles or who are democrats.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Where was the trial and who was he convicted of killing?

You know, the concept of innocent until proven guilty exists only inside the walls of a courtroom.

As far as I am concerned, John and Patsy Ramsey are directly responsible for the murder of their daughter, Jon Benet.

Period.

9 posted on 08/04/2004 11:14:12 AM PDT by Houmatt (I love my wife. You got a problem with that?)
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To: Houmatt

I would like to see your evidence. From what I know you could have killed her.


10 posted on 08/04/2004 11:48:32 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I don't trust men who inject poison in their faces to remove wrinkles or who are democrats.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
As in real life, here on FR, people's lifestyles are more important in determining opinions of guilt or innocence than any actual evidence.
11 posted on 08/04/2004 11:53:10 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

In real life we use evidence, not lifestyles.


12 posted on 08/04/2004 12:07:29 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I don't trust men who inject poison in their faces to remove wrinkles or who are democrats.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Of course the Ramsey's killer her - Geraldo told everyone.


13 posted on 08/04/2004 12:12:13 PM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: BulletBobCo
Results by county

I'm not surprised, especially with knowing how many North Michigan natives think. My family has a cottage in Grayling just south of the district, and my uncle has a cottage near Waters, and my aunt lives in Boyne Falls, both near the district. There are a lot of 'family-centered' small town politics that goes on, and if popular locals running, they are the favorites.

Ramsey wasn't from the area. A vacation home doesn't really count. If there wasn't a 6 man primary, I'd expect this to be a blowout because of Otsego and Cheboygan Counties. Small town politics still dominates.

Ramsey was popular in Charlevoix but didn't run away with the county like he needed to in order to win. Elsenheimer broke 1000 votes in Charlevoix. He's from Antrim county just to the South, and most likely took the Boyne Falls area off of US 131. Elsenheimer lost part of Antrim to Ramsey, mostly likely the Lake Michigan Coast where there are more vacation homes. Eastern Antrim/Charlevoix are more upcountry and Western Charlevoix has a lot of vacation homes on Lake Michigan. There's been some tension there between the groups in the past and that may have played a role.

Ramsey was crushed in Otsego which I expected. That's all upcountry rural blue collar and middle class and he's not 'one of them'. Many retirees there are also blue collar middle class. Most of the vote there was split between Ryan and Garfield who are homers, but Elsenheimer did well there getting almost 1000 votes(Elmira would be my guess). I'm suprised Ramsey did as well as he did in Cheyboygan, but no one really took a strong vote there - Elsenheimer won there closely with about 750.

Elsenheimer won by about 550 votes and that upcountry Cheboygan and Otsego vote was the major difference in this race.

14 posted on 08/04/2004 12:46:44 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("If you want a little peace, sometimes you gotta fight" - Sammy Hagar)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Start here.
15 posted on 08/04/2004 12:52:45 PM PDT by Houmatt (I love my wife. You got a problem with that?)
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